R.I.P. American children

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Simple reason - more vaccines have a direct coorelation to autism. Autism rates have dramatically increased from the 1980s to 2024, rising from roughly 1 in 2,500 in the early '80s to about 1 in 36 children by the early 2020s.

Here are some other things that “correlate” with the increase in autism diagnoses since the 1980s:
-increased use of seatbelts
-reduced rates of smoking
-declining use of fax machines
-increased television flatness
-reduced consumption of Aquanet
-decline in the frequency of Molly Ringwald movies

All of these have changed at the same time autism diagnoses have increased. That is not evidence that they cause autism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Truth

Not truth.

RFKs own ACIP is not changing pharma earnings anyways, just delaying the dose (at the expense of a small number of children's lives)

Vaccination is recommended because thousands of children were infected, half just through household exposure, and liver disease is horrific and extraordinarily expensive.

A small increase in cases increases insurance costs by increasing the risk pool of what they will have to ccover

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

It was a choice. Again, you have to agree to it. Perhaps you felt pressured - which would be appropriate for a healthcare provider who is educated on the risks of various infectious diseases including Hep B, but you signed the consent to treat form.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple reason - more vaccines have a direct coorelation to autism. Autism rates have dramatically increased from the 1980s to 2024, rising from roughly 1 in 2,500 in the early '80s to about 1 in 36 children by the early 2020s.

Here are some other things that “correlate” with the increase in autism diagnoses since the 1980s:
-increased use of seatbelts
-reduced rates of smoking
-declining use of fax machines
-increased television flatness
-reduced consumption of Aquanet
-decline in the frequency of Molly Ringwald movies

All of these have changed at the same time autism diagnoses have increased. That is not evidence that they cause autism.

You forgot white people overdiagnosing their kids so they get special super duper services and me time in school. Unless you can tell me that "autism" isn't a racist disorder per capita. And, I'm not talking about the smaller population of actual functionally impaired cases whose services get diluted because of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

Stop with the one example over and over. It's too bad that this is a rare case you had to experience but enough with the zealous unhinged comments. You've given that example 10 times already. Every illness and disease has tragedy involved but you cannot force people to do things based on selfish experiences or motivations. Delaying two months does not change anything.

I know people that have died from alcohol, from smoking, from car accidents, and fat people who had heart atacks. All these things can be easily avoided. Should we ban everything and/or force everyone to live a certain way?

You're literally giving a reason to quarantine foreign travelers so they take a hepB test before entering and kicking out all the immigrants.

And if you really care about the kids and their missed doses, why not just give DTap, Hib, etc.in the delivery room as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

Stop with the one example over and over. It's too bad that this is a rare case you had to experience but enough with the zealous unhinged comments. You've given that example 10 times already. Every illness and disease has tragedy involved but you cannot force people to do things based on selfish experiences or motivations. Delaying two months does not change anything.

I know people that have died from alcohol, from smoking, from car accidents, and fat people who had heart atacks. All these things can be easily avoided. Should we ban everything and/or force everyone to live a certain way?

You're literally giving a reason to quarantine foreign travelers so they take a hepB test before entering and kicking out all the immigrants.

And if you really care about the kids and their missed doses, why not just give DTap, Hib, etc.in the delivery room as well?

At least PP has an example. Meanwhile you can’t give a single explanation for why the birth dose is harmful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

Stop with the one example over and over. It's too bad that this is a rare case you had to experience but enough with the zealous unhinged comments. You've given that example 10 times already. Every illness and disease has tragedy involved but you cannot force people to do things based on selfish experiences or motivations. Delaying two months does not change anything.

I know people that have died from alcohol, from smoking, from car accidents, and fat people who had heart atacks. All these things can be easily avoided. Should we ban everything and/or force everyone to live a certain way?

You're literally giving a reason to quarantine foreign travelers so they take a hepB test before entering and kicking out all the immigrants.

And if you really care about the kids and their missed doses, why not just give DTap, Hib, etc.in the delivery room as well?

Are DTap or Hib transmitted via childbirth, subject to a 6% error rate of prenatal testing? We have different approaches here for a reason

It us worth it to point out the devastating impact of not vaccinating even if it is rare

And we do do things like require seatbelts. Heck we just removed sugary beverages from SNAP to control how people eat.

Here is a question: What is the harm in recommending the Hep B vaccine at birth? What is the data to show that risks outweigh benefits here? Not one person has demonstrated any benefit to delaying the dose to two months, though some harm has been discussed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

Stop with the one example over and over. It's too bad that this is a rare case you had to experience but enough with the zealous unhinged comments. You've given that example 10 times already. Every illness and disease has tragedy involved but you cannot force people to do things based on selfish experiences or motivations. Delaying two months does not change anything.

I know people that have died from alcohol, from smoking, from car accidents, and fat people who had heart atacks. All these things can be easily avoided. Should we ban everything and/or force everyone to live a certain way?

You're literally giving a reason to quarantine foreign travelers so they take a hepB test before entering and kicking out all the immigrants.

And if you really care about the kids and their missed doses, why not just give DTap, Hib, etc.in the delivery room as well?

At least PP has an example. Meanwhile you can’t give a single explanation for why the birth dose is harmful.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

Stop with the one example over and over. It's too bad that this is a rare case you had to experience but enough with the zealous unhinged comments. You've given that example 10 times already. Every illness and disease has tragedy involved but you cannot force people to do things based on selfish experiences or motivations. Delaying two months does not change anything.

I know people that have died from alcohol, from smoking, from car accidents, and fat people who had heart atacks. All these things can be easily avoided. Should we ban everything and/or force everyone to live a certain way?

You're literally giving a reason to quarantine foreign travelers so they take a hepB test before entering and kicking out all the immigrants.

And if you really care about the kids and their missed doses, why not just give DTap, Hib, etc.in the delivery room as well?

At least PP has an example. Meanwhile you can’t give a single explanation for why the birth dose is harmful.

I don't. I just didn't want my kids to get so many vaccines as newborns. I'd rather have them spread out however I'm sure I signed that form while under the influence of a drip after a difficult birth. If I had showed up fresh from over the border or with 100 tattoos then sure my baby should get it right away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

Stop with the one example over and over. It's too bad that this is a rare case you had to experience but enough with the zealous unhinged comments. You've given that example 10 times already. Every illness and disease has tragedy involved but you cannot force people to do things based on selfish experiences or motivations. Delaying two months does not change anything.

I know people that have died from alcohol, from smoking, from car accidents, and fat people who had heart atacks. All these things can be easily avoided. Should we ban everything and/or force everyone to live a certain way?

You're literally giving a reason to quarantine foreign travelers so they take a hepB test before entering and kicking out all the immigrants.

And if you really care about the kids and their missed doses, why not just give DTap, Hib, etc.in the delivery room as well?

At least PP has an example. Meanwhile you can’t give a single explanation for why the birth dose is harmful.

I don't. I just didn't want my kids to get so many vaccines as newborns. I'd rather have them spread out however I'm sure I signed that form while under the influence of a drip after a difficult birth. If I had showed up fresh from over the border or with 100 tattoos then sure my baby should get it right away.

What "drip" were you still on after birth impacting mentation? Epidurals are localized.

I cannot take you seriously with this other comment, just makes you sound unserious.

[Anonymous]

Shouldn’t rfk be banning sugar for all children, banning junk food in schools, banning screens for all children and mandating 6 hrs of outdoor exercise a day, banning all smoke products in children’s homes and in public? All these things are actually harmful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages and no one has said how the vaccine is harmful.

This. We had a safe successful program and changed it for no reason. If there was data showing rhe birth dose was harmful, that would be one thing, but there is not. There is various modeling data that shows delaying the dose will result in a small increase in cases due to prenatal screening being imperfect as well as horizontal transmission because there is plenty of data showing Hep B DOES transmit to children despite them not having sex or doing drugs - in the 90s, this was around half of all transmissions to childrn.

Also it was not forced. What do you think, the nurse says "it's time for the Hep B vaccine" and the parent says no, so the nurse does a running jump, dodges the parent, jabs the baby?

Again, if there was actual harm, of course we reconsider the current practice and change the program! But there is NOT. Only nonsensical paranoia which will fuel more vaccine hesitancy.

Actually yes. Many people have been forced, coerced, or outright lied to that it's legally required, including for our first. Also some pediatricians won't allow for staggered vaccines and will actually kick you from their practice. Please stop with the disinformation.

It is legally required for schools, yes. As it should be! Also pediatricians are free to run their practices as they choose. Their business, their choice.

But no, nobody is literally forcibly pushing a needle into a child against your will.

I'm literally talking about a hepB vaccine forced in the delivery room. No, it was not a choice during the chaos of childbirth.

Having watched my love one die of chronic liver disease due to a Hepatitis acquired in childhood, I am glad they encouraged you to vaccinate your child and that you signed the consent form.

Stop with the one example over and over. It's too bad that this is a rare case you had to experience but enough with the zealous unhinged comments. You've given that example 10 times already. Every illness and disease has tragedy involved but you cannot force people to do things based on selfish experiences or motivations. Delaying two months does not change anything.

I know people that have died from alcohol, from smoking, from car accidents, and fat people who had heart atacks. All these things can be easily avoided. Should we ban everything and/or force everyone to live a certain way?

You're literally giving a reason to quarantine foreign travelers so they take a hepB test before entering and kicking out all the immigrants.

And if you really care about the kids and their missed doses, why not just give DTap, Hib, etc.in the delivery room as well?

At least PP has an example. Meanwhile you can’t give a single explanation for why the birth dose is harmful.

I don't. I just didn't want my kids to get so many vaccines as newborns. I'd rather have them spread out however I'm sure I signed that form while under the influence of a drip after a difficult birth. If I had showed up fresh from over the border or with 100 tattoos then sure my baby should get it right away.

PS and why don't you want your kids to get so many vaccines as newborns? Hep B (and perhaps now RSV) is the only one given at birth, now moved to two months with other vaccines. What is your research citation there? Modern vaccines are actually far, far more limited in antigen targets than the ones of the 80s. Exposure to antigen targets is 95% less than vaccines of 40 years ago.

Are you the autism conspiracy theorist who posted here with spurious correlations equivalent to ice cream sales cause shark bites logic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn’t rfk be banning sugar for all children, banning junk food in schools, banning screens for all children and mandating 6 hrs of outdoor exercise a day, banning all smoke products in children’s homes and in public? All these things are actually harmful.

The current administration is expanding pfa exposure for children so I just view RFK as a distraction while the eff us all over. They rolled back water limits and fast tracked new pfas, as though the single bond pfas are so much safer so it is fine. Yay, lower fertility, more thyroid dysfunction, and cancer for all! Plus pesticides are linked to obesity, you would think they cared about that?