Girl with 1370 SAT gets in to 5 Ivies

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would it be advisable if you have a rising soph to start some of the same programs but for a white male student? If that is what the Ivy programs are looking for that might be a good hook??

Yes, please have your white son start a program to combat colorism among white high school students. The first meeting can discuss whether blondes really do have more fun.


Why is wrong for the white male student to start a club to combat colorism? first males are underrepresented in college, by a very large percentage. second, if indentity of one's race is important to that person, why can't there be a club for it?

If it works to get into an Ivy, you might see more clubs like that.

Do you know what colorism is? It’s discrimination against darker skin by others of the same race. I don’t think white males need to worry about it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If her parents were educated outside the United States, she’s considered “First Gen”.

“First Gen” is the best hook you can have right now.


That is not the definition of First Gen. They ask where parents went to college. If they went to college - at all - anywhere - that is not considered "FG". They will also look at careers.

I didn't read the article. What are the parents careers?


That’s not true. If her parents went to college outside the US, she falls under “first gen”.



No, first gen means first gen to go to college anywhere.


It depends on the school. There is no single definition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She really has interesting and unique EC’s. One of her EC’s is “in her spare time, she also founded Still I Shine, a virtual community support group for Black high school-age girls dealing with “colorism” — discrimination against people with a dark skin tone within the same ethnic or racial groups.”

Colorism is such a huge problem. I don’t understand why it doesn’t get more press. How you end up getting treated by others really does vary by skin color. I have darker skin than my siblings and it isn’t just white people who treat darker skin people differently it is within our own ethnic/racial communities where the message is always lighter skin is superior.

Add to that she has 5 million views on a TikTok video. She is within the top 10 students of her high school class of almost 700. She is far, far more impressive than someone who scored 1600 with run of the mill EC’s.

All you haters thinking she got in only because she is black need to stop with all your petty insinuations. How about posting about white students who got in because they play white sports like women’s rugby, fencing or crew.


This kid is going to crush it.


In remedial reading and math classes while majoring in African studies.


Nah. Women's studies. And we need it.
Good for her. There are classes that she can fill and professors for whom she can do research and TA.
This is the purpose of a true liberal arts education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would it be advisable if you have a rising soph to start some of the same programs but for a white male student? If that is what the Ivy programs are looking for that might be a good hook??

Yes, please have your white son start a program to combat colorism among white high school students. The first meeting can discuss whether blondes really do have more fun.


Why is wrong for the white male student to start a club to combat colorism? first males are underrepresented in college, by a very large percentage. second, if indentity of one's race is important to that person, why can't there be a club for it?

If it works to get into an Ivy, you might see more clubs like that.


Because the only schools that are going to appreciate a fighter for "white rights" or "male rights" are Hillsdale, Bob Jones, and Liberty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If her parents were educated outside the United States, she’s considered “First Gen”.

“First Gen” is the best hook you can have right now.


That is not the definition of First Gen. They ask where parents went to college. If they went to college - at all - anywhere - that is not considered "FG". They will also look at careers.

I didn't read the article. What are the parents careers?


That’s not true. If her parents went to college outside the US, she falls under “first gen”.



No, first gen means first gen to go to college anywhere.


It depends on the school. There is no single definition.

At Ivies. It is the first generation to go to college.
She would not be considered FG at any of the Ivies to which she applied.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She really has interesting and unique EC’s. One of her EC’s is “in her spare time, she also founded Still I Shine, a virtual community support group for Black high school-age girls dealing with “colorism” — discrimination against people with a dark skin tone within the same ethnic or racial groups.”

Colorism is such a huge problem. I don’t understand why it doesn’t get more press. How you end up getting treated by others really does vary by skin color. I have darker skin than my siblings and it isn’t just white people who treat darker skin people differently it is within our own ethnic/racial communities where the message is always lighter skin is superior.

Add to that she has 5 million views on a TikTok video. She is within the top 10 students of her high school class of almost 700. She is far, far more impressive than someone who scored 1600 with run of the mill EC’s.

All you haters thinking she got in only because she is black need to stop with all your petty insinuations. How about posting about white students who got in because they play white sports like women’s rugby, fencing or crew.



Being top 10 in a school isn't impressive compared to the 1000s of other students who are also top 10 and have 1609 SATs.

She got 5million views because she got into Yale, or vice versa. Those are Yale's views as much as hers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If her parents were educated outside the United States, she’s considered “First Gen”.

“First Gen” is the best hook you can have right now.


That is not the definition of First Gen. They ask where parents went to college. If they went to college - at all - anywhere - that is not considered "FG". They will also look at careers.

I didn't read the article. What are the parents careers?


That’s not true. If her parents went to college outside the US, she falls under “first gen”.



No, first gen means first gen to go to college anywhere.


It depends on the school. There is no single definition.

Moot, her parents graduated from Bucknell and Temple.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She really has interesting and unique EC’s. One of her EC’s is “in her spare time, she also founded Still I Shine, a virtual community support group for Black high school-age girls dealing with “colorism” — discrimination against people with a dark skin tone within the same ethnic or racial groups.”

Colorism is such a huge problem. I don’t understand why it doesn’t get more press. How you end up getting treated by others really does vary by skin color. I have darker skin than my siblings and it isn’t just white people who treat darker skin people differently it is within our own ethnic/racial communities where the message is always lighter skin is superior.

Add to that she has 5 million views on a TikTok video. She is within the top 10 students of her high school class of almost 700. She is far, far more impressive than someone who scored 1600 with run of the mill EC’s.

All you haters thinking she got in only because she is black need to stop with all your petty insinuations. How about posting about white students who got in because they play white sports like women’s rugby, fencing or crew.



Being top 10 in a school isn't impressive compared to the 1000s of other students who are also top 10 and have 1609 SATs.

She got 5million views because she got into Yale, or vice versa. Those are Yale's views as much as hers.


You seem to have skipped over all of the other parts of her application that are impressive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would it be advisable if you have a rising soph to start some of the same programs but for a white male student? If that is what the Ivy programs are looking for that might be a good hook??

Yes, please have your white son start a program to combat colorism among white high school students. The first meeting can discuss whether blondes really do have more fun.


Why is wrong for the white male student to start a club to combat colorism? first males are underrepresented in college, by a very large percentage. second, if indentity of one's race is important to that person, why can't there be a club for it?

If it works to get into an Ivy, you might see more clubs like that.


Because the only schools that are going to appreciate a fighter for "white rights" or "male rights" are Hillsdale, Bob Jones, and Liberty.


Okay, well those schools need to fill up their classes as well. There's a college for everybody I suppose.
Anonymous
Sorry, LSAT is required at all good law schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If her parents were educated outside the United States, she’s considered “First Gen”.

“First Gen” is the best hook you can have right now.


That is not the definition of First Gen. They ask where parents went to college. If they went to college - at all - anywhere - that is not considered "FG". They will also look at careers.

I didn't read the article. What are the parents careers?


That’s not true. If her parents went to college outside the US, she falls under “first gen”.



No, first gen means first gen to go to college anywhere.


It depends on the school. There is no single definition.

At Ivies. It is the first generation to go to college.
She would not be considered FG at any of the Ivies to which she applied.


No one even agrees on what the “ivies” are. And they are not the same.

At Penn, you are considered First Gen if one of your parents took 6 or more years to get their undergraduate degree.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If her parents were educated outside the United States, she’s considered “First Gen”.

“First Gen” is the best hook you can have right now.


That is not the definition of First Gen. They ask where parents went to college. If they went to college - at all - anywhere - that is not considered "FG". They will also look at careers.

I didn't read the article. What are the parents careers?


That’s not true. If her parents went to college outside the US, she falls under “first gen”.



No, first gen means first gen to go to college anywhere.


It depends on the school. There is no single definition.

At Ivies. It is the first generation to go to college.
She would not be considered FG at any of the Ivies to which she applied.


No one even agrees on what the “ivies” are. And they are not the same.

At Penn, you are considered First Gen if one of your parents took 6 or more years to get their undergraduate degree.


Penn’s “First Plus” designation is atypically broad. And yes, everyone agrees on what the Ivies are. There are people who like to talk about “new Ivies” or “public Ivies,” but the eight actual Ivies are defined and universally acknowledged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the schools are not obeying the law and still the racial discrimination.

Cut the funding already.


No! She's impressive! The activities and accolades (and maybe teacher LOR) are why she got in.

My Asian DD applied test optional (With similar test scores tbh) and got into MANY T20 schools (and is going to one of them)!


Agree! And I also have an ORM test op kid at an Ivy too....
Not sure why the hate here?
I think people don't understand what holistic admissions is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the schools are not obeying the law and still the racial discrimination.

Cut the funding already.


No! She's impressive! The activities and accolades (and maybe teacher LOR) are why she got in.

My Asian DD applied test optional (With similar test scores tbh) and got into MANY T20 schools (and is going to one of them)!


Agree! And I also have an ORM test op kid at an Ivy too....
Not sure why the hate here?
I think people don't understand what holistic admissions is.


They understand they they just do not like to have to compete on a holistic playing field. People want to compete on the playing field that advantages themselves. If you can crank out a perfect SAT score, you can be sure that you want to compete on the SAT score playing field. If you can shoot consistent three pointers all day and night you want to compete on an athletic playing field.
Anonymous
Where did the 1370 SAT score cited in the SUBJECT come from? It's not in the article itself.

An aggrieved OP throwing out stats?

BTW, a 1370 is just fine. Thanks.
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