Airport gate agents & carry ons

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of all the carryon luggage travelers with their giant roller bags. They delay boarding, they delay deboarding and they think they have the right to move my backpack out of the bin that was there first because, why? Their bag full of crap is more important than my bag full of crap?

I would fully fully support NO roller bags on board, period. I know this will never happen so instead I support a very large fee for carryon bags and a much smaller (comparatively) fee for checked bags.

Because the airlines disagree with you and will routinely support the passengers with larger luggage and tell people they need to move their backpacks/smaller bags underneath their seats to make way for roller bags. I’m literally on a plane right now and watching them do so.

As I said this is an easy problem to solve, just bring a small second bag to put under your seat and then your backpack can stay up top. Works every time. “Oh, sorry I already have a bag at my feet.”

If your backpack is so large that it won’t fit under your seat along side a purse then you’re delaying boarding/taking up just as much space as the roller bag passengers you claim to hate. You sound like a hypocrite.

I’m not that poster. I’m the “roller bag's don’t trump backpacks” poster. We all get one slot and I’m keeping mine. If you board late it’s not my problem.

You must not fly much. Flight attendants will frequently announce that it’s a full flight and require passengers to put backpacks/smaller bags under their seats to leave room for roller bags (and will physically remove said smaller bags from overhead/ask who they belong to). Sure you can insist that you are entitled to a slot but enjoy getting kicked off the plane for refusing to comply with instructions.

I fly regularly and it happens regularly. When they say “whose bag is this?” I say it’s mine but gesture there is already a bag at my feet and they move on to another victim.

Okay, so you yourself bring two large carry on bags that can’t both fit under your seat yet somehow feel entitled to criticize those with roller bags….because they have wheels?

Not criticizing roller bags for existing. I’m saying they don’t trump my bag in the bin. And no the bag at my feet is usually empty or just has a sweater in it and I fold it up once the flight is boarded so I can have my leg space.

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Anonymous wrote:The cynicism and combativeness toward flight attendants in this thread makes it hard to believe this is simply a matter of systemic discrimination embedded in the airline service industry.

People can usually tell an a**hole when they see one; this is especially true for service industry workers. And, hear me out. It's possible, you just might be an a**hole.

Seems like you would know. Start treating people better.

Exactly! The only worse/ruder flight attendants than those with US Airlines are those with Air Canada. I have found those in European countries to be more helpful/ kinder.

Definitely not Lufthansa- they’re the worst of all!

And KLM. I had a KLM FA tell me if everyone wanted as much water as me ther wouldn't be enough for everyone, so no, I couldn't hava a third cup of water while very visibly pregnant and flying 6 hours

I mean, she shouldn't have denied you (or anyone) water, but your "pregnancy status" does not entitle you to more than anyone else.

DP but three cups of water on a long flight sounds like a normal amount for any human. And if a passenger requires more water due to some medical needs, denying it or rationing it is actual insanity. Why would you risk affecting a passenger's health over something so basic?

If your "medical need" is that dire you plan for it and carry on your own. How is something so basic not common knowledge?

I wonder if that PP kept pushing the button to demand more water. That would get old pretty fast when she could have just brought her own bottle on.

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Anonymous wrote:The cynicism and combativeness toward flight attendants in this thread makes it hard to believe this is simply a matter of systemic discrimination embedded in the airline service industry.

People can usually tell an a**hole when they see one; this is especially true for service industry workers. And, hear me out. It's possible, you just might be an a**hole.

Seems like you would know. Start treating people better.

Exactly! The only worse/ruder flight attendants than those with US Airlines are those with Air Canada. I have found those in European countries to be more helpful/ kinder.

Definitely not Lufthansa- they’re the worst of all!

And KLM. I had a KLM FA tell me if everyone wanted as much water as me ther wouldn't be enough for everyone, so no, I couldn't hava a third cup of water while very visibly pregnant and flying 6 hours

She shouldn’t have said that, but I can’t imagine being on a flight of that length and not bringing my own water. I don’t want to be at the mercy of someone else for my hydration.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of all the carryon luggage travelers with their giant roller bags. They delay boarding, they delay deboarding and they think they have the right to move my backpack out of the bin that was there first because, why? Their bag full of crap is more important than my bag full of crap?

I would fully fully support NO roller bags on board, period. I know this will never happen so instead I support a very large fee for carryon bags and a much smaller (comparatively) fee for checked bags.

Because the airlines disagree with you and will routinely support the passengers with larger luggage and tell people they need to move their backpacks/smaller bags underneath their seats to make way for roller bags. I’m literally on a plane right now and watching them do so.

As I said this is an easy problem to solve, just bring a small second bag to put under your seat and then your backpack can stay up top. Works every time. “Oh, sorry I already have a bag at my feet.”

If your backpack is so large that it won’t fit under your seat along side a purse then you’re delaying boarding/taking up just as much space as the roller bag passengers you claim to hate. You sound like a hypocrite.

I’m not that poster. I’m the “roller bag's don’t trump backpacks” poster. We all get one slot and I’m keeping mine. If you board late it’s not my problem.

But we don’t actually all get one slot. That’s the problem. There’s not enough space for every single person to put something in the overhead.

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Anonymous wrote:You should know they don’t make any revenue from bags checked at the gate in such a way.

I think they “try” as often as they can, before they have to “force” people to check their carryons. I think they just figure it’s easier to ask and get someone who is willing, than to have to force everyone after a certain point. Plus it streamlines the process if they can intermittently check 20 bags as opposed to forcefully checking 20 bags towards the end of the boarding process, all at once, when time is already of the essence.

—Flight attendant

The problem is that they tend to disproportionately and unfairly target women with these “requests” (probably because they anticipate that they‘ll be less likely to push back)

They often attempt to downgrade me and move me around too. They never do it to my husband - even he notices the discrepancy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of all the carryon luggage travelers with their giant roller bags. They delay boarding, they delay deboarding and they think they have the right to move my backpack out of the bin that was there first because, why? Their bag full of crap is more important than my bag full of crap?

I would fully fully support NO roller bags on board, period. I know this will never happen so instead I support a very large fee for carryon bags and a much smaller (comparatively) fee for checked bags.

Because the airlines disagree with you and will routinely support the passengers with larger luggage and tell people they need to move their backpacks/smaller bags underneath their seats to make way for roller bags. I’m literally on a plane right now and watching them do so.

As I said this is an easy problem to solve, just bring a small second bag to put under your seat and then your backpack can stay up top. Works every time. “Oh, sorry I already have a bag at my feet.”

If your backpack is so large that it won’t fit under your seat along side a purse then you’re delaying boarding/taking up just as much space as the roller bag passengers you claim to hate. You sound like a hypocrite.

I’m not that poster. I’m the “roller bag's don’t trump backpacks” poster. We all get one slot and I’m keeping mine. If you board late it’s not my problem.

But we don’t actually all get one slot. That’s the problem. There’s not enough space for every single person to put something in the overhead.

I’m not reading all 9 pages but I just want to say I’m also a “rollerbags don’t trump backpacks” person.

So what if there isn’t enough space for everyone to put something overhead— that doesn’t answer why you should get space over me if I’m willing to check my bag to have a more comfortable flight.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of all the carryon luggage travelers with their giant roller bags. They delay boarding, they delay deboarding and they think they have the right to move my backpack out of the bin that was there first because, why? Their bag full of crap is more important than my bag full of crap?

I would fully fully support NO roller bags on board, period. I know this will never happen so instead I support a very large fee for carryon bags and a much smaller (comparatively) fee for checked bags.

Because the airlines disagree with you and will routinely support the passengers with larger luggage and tell people they need to move their backpacks/smaller bags underneath their seats to make way for roller bags. I’m literally on a plane right now and watching them do so.

As I said this is an easy problem to solve, just bring a small second bag to put under your seat and then your backpack can stay up top. Works every time. “Oh, sorry I already have a bag at my feet.”

If your backpack is so large that it won’t fit under your seat along side a purse then you’re delaying boarding/taking up just as much space as the roller bag passengers you claim to hate. You sound like a hypocrite.

I’m not that poster. I’m the “roller bag's don’t trump backpacks” poster. We all get one slot and I’m keeping mine. If you board late it’s not my problem.

But we don’t actually all get one slot. That’s the problem. There’s not enough space for every single person to put something in the overhead.

I’m not reading all 9 pages but I just want to say I’m also a “rollerbags don’t trump backpacks” person.

So what if there isn’t enough space for everyone to put something overhead— that doesn’t answer why you should get space over me if I’m willing to check my bag to have a more comfortable flight.

I’m not answering your question, I’m refuting your assertion that everyone has an overhead slot. If they did have an assigned slot, this whole conversation wouldn’t be happening because there would be no need to race onto the plane to secure a spot overhead.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of all the carryon luggage travelers with their giant roller bags. They delay boarding, they delay deboarding and they think they have the right to move my backpack out of the bin that was there first because, why? Their bag full of crap is more important than my bag full of crap?

I would fully fully support NO roller bags on board, period. I know this will never happen so instead I support a very large fee for carryon bags and a much smaller (comparatively) fee for checked bags.

Because the airlines disagree with you and will routinely support the passengers with larger luggage and tell people they need to move their backpacks/smaller bags underneath their seats to make way for roller bags. I’m literally on a plane right now and watching them do so.

As I said this is an easy problem to solve, just bring a small second bag to put under your seat and then your backpack can stay up top. Works every time. “Oh, sorry I already have a bag at my feet.”

If your backpack is so large that it won’t fit under your seat along side a purse then you’re delaying boarding/taking up just as much space as the roller bag passengers you claim to hate. You sound like a hypocrite.

I’m not that poster. I’m the “roller bag's don’t trump backpacks” poster. We all get one slot and I’m keeping mine. If you board late it’s not my problem.

But we don’t actually all get one slot. That’s the problem. There’s not enough space for every single person to put something in the overhead.

I’m not reading all 9 pages but I just want to say I’m also a “rollerbags don’t trump backpacks” person.

So what if there isn’t enough space for everyone to put something overhead— that doesn’t answer why you should get space over me if I’m willing to check my bag to have a more comfortable flight.

I’m not answering your question, I’m refuting your assertion that everyone has an overhead slot. If they did have an assigned slot, this whole conversation wouldn’t be happening because there would be no need to race onto the plane to secure a spot overhead.

I am pretty sure the point that person was making was “everyone who boards the plane when there is available bin space is entitled to use some of the available bin space” 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of all the carryon luggage travelers with their giant roller bags. They delay boarding, they delay deboarding and they think they have the right to move my backpack out of the bin that was there first because, why? Their bag full of crap is more important than my bag full of crap?

I would fully fully support NO roller bags on board, period. I know this will never happen so instead I support a very large fee for carryon bags and a much smaller (comparatively) fee for checked bags.

Because the airlines disagree with you and will routinely support the passengers with larger luggage and tell people they need to move their backpacks/smaller bags underneath their seats to make way for roller bags. I’m literally on a plane right now and watching them do so.

As I said this is an easy problem to solve, just bring a small second bag to put under your seat and then your backpack can stay up top. Works every time. “Oh, sorry I already have a bag at my feet.”

If your backpack is so large that it won’t fit under your seat along side a purse then you’re delaying boarding/taking up just as much space as the roller bag passengers you claim to hate. You sound like a hypocrite.

I’m not that poster. I’m the “roller bag's don’t trump backpacks” poster. We all get one slot and I’m keeping mine. If you board late it’s not my problem.

But we don’t actually all get one slot. That’s the problem. There’s not enough space for every single person to put something in the overhead.

I’m not reading all 9 pages but I just want to say I’m also a “rollerbags don’t trump backpacks” person.

So what if there isn’t enough space for everyone to put something overhead— that doesn’t answer why you should get space over me if I’m willing to check my bag to have a more comfortable flight.

I’m not answering your question, I’m refuting your assertion that everyone has an overhead slot. If they did have an assigned slot, this whole conversation wouldn’t be happening because there would be no need to race onto the plane to secure a spot overhead.

I am pretty sure the point that person was making was “everyone who boards the plane when there is available bin space is entitled to use some of the available bin space” 🙄

Yes and no. It makes no sense for people to place coats in the overhead, thus blocking actual luggage. If you can stuff your coat around other bags overhead, great, otherwise sit with your coat in your seat. The FAs agree--it's an inefficient use of space. It's not anyone's right to use space inefficiently. The flight crew has the final say about how the overhead space is used, and to argue against them is like shaking your fist at a cloud---pointless.