Nope, it was choices. Your understanding is why some women who work disparage some who don’t because the ones who don’t are letting down other women by not pursuing a career. It’s messed up. |
+1. This is like the "dead animal" thing above. How often does the task need to be completed? Cooking dinner everyday takes let's say 365 hours per year. Cleaning a dead animal from the yard is a very unpleasant task, to be sure, but it happens once every 5 years? And takes little time to do. You do the taxes? OK, that takes what a couple hours once a year? And meanwhile the other partner is handling laundry which is done daily in our house. It doesn't compare. |
No, darling. I have a degree in women's studies. It wasn't about "choices." It was about economic empowerment. This notion that was about "choices" is revisionist thinking by entitled women who have no idea what the struggle was like, let alone any understanding of what the movement was about. |
Wait, you have a degree in womens studies and are calling me "darling"? |
But men want the whole set up. They want to go to work and then come home and do nothing. Men expect this whether their wives work outside the home or not. Whether the kids are toddlers or teens. They do not believe that the work of childcare outside their working hours should be evenly divided. EVEN if both people worked all day (whether that work was for pay or unpaid wiping of butts and preparing snacks and all that). Women who have husbands with this attitude (which is most husbands) are stuck. If they work, they will still be expected to do the majority of childcare/housework outside of work hours. Sometimes this is justified by "I make more money" or "my job is harder" or "I work longer hours." But usually not. On the other hand, if they SAHM, they may have more time to do all the tasks they will be expected to do anyway. But they are expected to work 24/7, because men like you think being a SAHM is easy. You don't understand what is so hard about childcare that she can't also keep the house perfectly tidy and do all the administrative stuff too. What's she doing all day? No really, you have no idea, having never cared for kids full time. What IS she doing all day? So even if she spends the entire day working, you still expect her to do the vast majority of the after-work childcare/household responsibilities because, after all, she doesn't have a "real job" like you (nevermind if your job actually involves a lot of sitting, downtime, and socializing with colleagues and clients, things that could easily be called easy when compared to the hardest parts of what even a SAHM of school age kids does). Which is why the only "solution" anyone has ever found to this is outsourcing a lot of the childcare and housework so that the couple can divide what is left. But most families can't afford that. Is there ANY situation in which you actually believe that a man should do 50% (or more!) of the childcare/housework/household admin? I bet no. That's women's work. |
You do know I am not just talking about you and your little man friends. You also missed my second part which is they talk about them to complain about them! |
Yes. But I'm glad you're keeping up, hun. |
My husband does everything on that list. Where do I go to pick up my prize? |
Well said pp! |
You don’t think that Dads who stay home don’t get judged as lazy? I sure have news for you. |
Maybe some women are like this but I am more of a traditional SAHM. When my kids went to full time school, my husband started making noises about my going back to work. When I asked how we would re-divide the labor if I did that, he told me he would online order our groceries. That was it. Which made it perfectly clear that he thinks that is 1/2 of what I did for the family. I knew right then and there that going back full-time was off the table. I do work about 18 hours a week now, and its manageable most of the time, but he still bristles if I need him to do something unexpected like run a kid to the ortho for a broken bracket. To which I reply, that if he wants someone to handle literally everything again, then I need to quit my PT job. |
I’m saying that mothers would be much happier if the focused solely on being moms when their children are young. They very well may have talents/brain/skills society can benefit from, but the discussion about happiness and purpose are two separate ones. The vast majority of career women have jobs, not careers, and it is ironic that women supporting feminism parrot the incredulous lie that working 45 hours per week as Regional Sales Manager to Management is worth more to women than being home with their child. It is certainly worth more to your company that you spend those hours click-clacking on your laptop, but it won’t make you happier. I think the female resentment is symptomatic that some women are waking up like “what the hell am I doing, getting sucked dry for $35/hr?” but the market absolutely cannot allow her to consider quitting so - quick! - blame her DH and they can fight about who cleans gutters so that no one stops and says “wait, who is actually getting all our time?” |
I am sure that the MRA boards also have long lists of all the ways that women have it easy and how they are the problem and don't do everything men do.
I have about as much time for these lists as for a misogynistic list. The anti-the other sex view isn't one I share or encounter often at all. Are there some useless men and women - of course. There are pathetic excuses for parents, spouses, and humans overall. Men and women. That list isn't reflective at all of the men I know - colleagues, family, friends, or acquaintances. |
I do all of these things, as well as all the things in the original post. I do it all. |
where can i sign up for these privledges |