What happened to UVa??

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools got to expensive.

Kids that would have gone to Georgetown or Williams or an Ivy don’t want to spend $85-99k/year so more and more are going in-state instead. Very few NoVA residents will qualify for financial aid anywhere since HHI are some of the highest in the nation and COL isn’t a factor in aid.

UVA is now #24 and WM provides the size and education of those $85k Slacs.

Got it?

Agree with this. I went to Cornell waaay back in the day and my parents were able to pay the tuition. But it’s stupid-expensive now and I don’t even see it as an option for my kids. I’m hoping they’ll get into one of the VA schools, but we’ll see how that plays out when the time comes.

Nowadays, only Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, and Yale are worth the ridiculous fees they charge.

This. We told our DC it’s only Harvard, Yale, Stanford that we would be willing to go all in for. Otherwise, in state is it.

I bet you love telling your friends this. Do you also tell them you’d rather walk than be caught dead in anything other than a BMW or Mercedes?

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Anonymous wrote:And ironically UVa CS and Engineering programs are quite mediocre, at best

yup. My kid got in both UVA and VT for engineering and (obviously) picked VT.

+1. No brainer.

lol I love the angry vehemence of these responses. translation: my kid didn’t really get into UVA

NP. I love the angry vehemence of posters who can’t fathom anyone choosing VT over UVA. You really need to get out more.

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools got to expensive.

Kids that would have gone to Georgetown or Williams or an Ivy don’t want to spend $85-99k/year so more and more are going in-state instead. Very few NoVA residents will qualify for financial aid anywhere since HHI are some of the highest in the nation and COL isn’t a factor in aid.

UVA is now #24 and WM provides the size and education of those $85k Slacs.

Got it?

Agree with this. I went to Cornell waaay back in the day and my parents were able to pay the tuition. But it’s stupid-expensive now and I don’t even see it as an option for my kids. I’m hoping they’ll get into one of the VA schools, but we’ll see how that plays out when the time comes.

Nowadays, only Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, and Yale are worth the ridiculous fees they charge.

This. We told our DC it’s only Harvard, Yale, Stanford that we would be willing to go all in for. Otherwise, in state is it.

Is Harvard & Yale worth the tuition for Computer Science over top state schools like Georgia Tech ?

We have engineers in the family, and frankly, I would only pay for traditionally strong engineering schools (state or private). Those schools without a robust history of CS and engineering do not have programs that are developed enough. Since you asked. It shocks me that people choose engineering programs for the school name and not the program history, but I do think some parents are ignorant, in that regard.

Or perhaps they know that 80% of entering students change their major at least once. Hence, it was smart for my DC to turn down Purdue and Ga Tech for aerospace engineering and went with UVA. She switched majors to PPL (politics philosophy & law) at the end of her first year. Turns out she and calc 3 didn't agree with one another. She's now in a grad program at arguably the best university in the world and headed for law school.

I get it. Which school?

The big O. Now taking the LSAT and applying for law schools this fall. Her UVA education (similar majors) is far superior to my expensive SLAC one. I've been very impressed.

What school is that??

DP. Ugh, that’s the annoying UVA parent who constantly brags about his daughter who is now at Oxford and the amount of Rhodes scholars at UVA - as if anyone cares. So tedious.

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools got to expensive.

Kids that would have gone to Georgetown or Williams or an Ivy don’t want to spend $85-99k/year so more and more are going in-state instead. Very few NoVA residents will qualify for financial aid anywhere since HHI are some of the highest in the nation and COL isn’t a factor in aid.

UVA is now #24 and WM provides the size and education of those $85k Slacs.

Got it?

Agree with this. I went to Cornell waaay back in the day and my parents were able to pay the tuition. But it’s stupid-expensive now and I don’t even see it as an option for my kids. I’m hoping they’ll get into one of the VA schools, but we’ll see how that plays out when the time comes.

Nowadays, only Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, and Yale are worth the ridiculous fees they charge.

This. We told our DC it’s only Harvard, Yale, Stanford that we would be willing to go all in for. Otherwise, in state is it.

My kid and several other high stat kids we know - all boys - were essentially shut out of the Virginia universities that should have been matches based on stats (above 4.0, upper 1400s to low 1500s, strong extracurriculars and most rigorous course loads). Girls with lower stats were accepted to the same schools, as well as kids that matched DEI criteria.

If you have a son that does not check a box, you absolutely cannot count on acceptance in state, even if your kid has done everything right and has very high stats that should result in acceptance to qt least one of the top 3-4 Virginia universities.

Something is very broken with the Virginia university acceptance process.

We noticed the same issue in recent graduating classes (different years). I realize most colleges are now 60/40 (women/men), but there seems something amiss - especially with regard to STEM. The schools are overcompensating for something.

We are 2:2 shut out of the top Virginia schools for our high stats sons.

The first one fell in that upper right hand corner on Naviance. The 12th highest SAT for his class, and in that cluster of above 4.0 GPAs. They had the most rigorous course load and solid extracurriculars.

My second son has slightly higher SATs and GPA, 1 level down in math (calc as a senior vs calc as a junior, but otherwise the exact same course load) and higher stat extracurriculars, such as multiple state level extracurriculars and national recognitions. Very good essays. Not accepted to the top 3 Virginia schools.

I am curious to see where he falls on naviance when it is posted next year. Since my daughter will be a senior, I will be able.to access that information. I have strong suspicions that his SAT and GPA will put him much higher than most of the kids accepted to those universities from our school, just like my first son.

Virginia needs to return to test required. The grades post covid are just too inflated.

No one is owed admission to a school. However, if a “top” kid has no admission to any of the three “top” Virginia colleges/universities, and truly intends to attend one, that’s a problem. Presumably your kids have other good options?

Also, there’s Mason, but it’s fair to want an away experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools got to expensive.

Kids that would have gone to Georgetown or Williams or an Ivy don’t want to spend $85-99k/year so more and more are going in-state instead. Very few NoVA residents will qualify for financial aid anywhere since HHI are some of the highest in the nation and COL isn’t a factor in aid.

UVA is now #24 and WM provides the size and education of those $85k Slacs.

Got it?

Agree with this. I went to Cornell waaay back in the day and my parents were able to pay the tuition. But it’s stupid-expensive now and I don’t even see it as an option for my kids. I’m hoping they’ll get into one of the VA schools, but we’ll see how that plays out when the time comes.

Nowadays, only Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, and Yale are worth the ridiculous fees they charge.

This. We told our DC it’s only Harvard, Yale, Stanford that we would be willing to go all in for. Otherwise, in state is it.

Is Harvard & Yale worth the tuition for Computer Science over top state schools like Georgia Tech ?

We have engineers in the family, and frankly, I would only pay for traditionally strong engineering schools (state or private). Those schools without a robust history of CS and engineering do not have programs that are developed enough. Since you asked. It shocks me that people choose engineering programs for the school name and not the program history, but I do think some parents are ignorant, in that regard.

Or perhaps they know that 80% of entering students change their major at least once. Hence, it was smart for my DC to turn down Purdue and Ga Tech for aerospace engineering and went with UVA. She switched majors to PPL (politics philosophy & law) at the end of her first year. Turns out she and calc 3 didn't agree with one another. She's now in a grad program at arguably the best university in the world and headed for law school.

I get it. Which school?

The big O. Now taking the LSAT and applying for law schools this fall. Her UVA education (similar majors) is far superior to my expensive SLAC one. I've been very impressed.

What school is that??

She's being coy in that same obnoxious way that certain people like to say, "I went to school in Cambridge".

PP here. Can you tell me what school she is talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:And ironically UVa CS and Engineering programs are quite mediocre, at best

yup. My kid got in both UVA and VT for engineering and (obviously) picked VT.

+1. No brainer.

lol I love the angry vehemence of these responses. translation: my kid didn’t really get into UVA

NP. I love the angry vehemence of posters who can’t fathom anyone choosing VT over UVA. You really need to get out more.[/quote]

+1. BINGO. Some people do not plan on UVA since birth, and that is okay. People are different. Y'know? UVA parents are proud of saving money, and that is great, but UVA is not for everyone.

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Doesn’t UVA produce a lot of Rhodes Scholars?

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Anonymous wrote:And ironically UVa CS and Engineering programs are quite mediocre, at best

yup. My kid got in both UVA and VT for engineering and (obviously) picked VT.

+1. No brainer.

lol I love the angry vehemence of these responses. translation: my kid didn’t really get into UVA

NP. I love the angry vehemence of posters who can’t fathom anyone choosing VT over UVA. You really need to get out more.

Or William & Mary.

I’m a VA native. We have had a relative in literally every public VA university at some point. All chose the one that fit their needs and personality and personal likes.

I chose VT as a stem major. My senior is choosing WM over UVA for size. The schools he gravitated towards are in that 6k-8k sweet spot.

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools got to expensive.

Kids that would have gone to Georgetown or Williams or an Ivy don’t want to spend $85-99k/year so more and more are going in-state instead. Very few NoVA residents will qualify for financial aid anywhere since HHI are some of the highest in the nation and COL isn’t a factor in aid.

UVA is now #24 and WM provides the size and education of those $85k Slacs.

Got it?

Agree with this. I went to Cornell waaay back in the day and my parents were able to pay the tuition. But it’s stupid-expensive now and I don’t even see it as an option for my kids. I’m hoping they’ll get into one of the VA schools, but we’ll see how that plays out when the time comes.

Nowadays, only Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, and Yale are worth the ridiculous fees they charge.

This. We told our DC it’s only Harvard, Yale, Stanford that we would be willing to go all in for. Otherwise, in state is it.

Is Harvard & Yale worth the tuition for Computer Science over top state schools like Georgia Tech ?

We have engineers in the family, and frankly, I would only pay for traditionally strong engineering schools (state or private). Those schools without a robust history of CS and engineering do not have programs that are developed enough. Since you asked. It shocks me that people choose engineering programs for the school name and not the program history, but I do think some parents are ignorant, in that regard.

Or perhaps they know that 80% of entering students change their major at least once. Hence, it was smart for my DC to turn down Purdue and Ga Tech for aerospace engineering and went with UVA. She switched majors to PPL (politics philosophy & law) at the end of her first year. Turns out she and calc 3 didn't agree with one another. She's now in a grad program at arguably the best university in the world and headed for law school.

I get it. Which school?

The big O. Now taking the LSAT and applying for law schools this fall. Her UVA education (similar majors) is far superior to my expensive SLAC one. I've been very impressed.

What school is that??

She's being coy in that same obnoxious way that certain people like to say, "I went to school in Cambridge".

PP here. Can you tell me what school she is talking about?

Oxford. No one in their right mind refers to it as the big “O”. Maybe she had her first one there. Lol