Pros and cons of all boys catholic schools

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pro: space for "boys will be boys"
con: same

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble understanding why a parent wouldn't want their boys learning to be comfortable with a co-ed learning environment, given that colleges, graduate schools, and workplaces all tend to include both men and women. A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world.

And nobody worries about girls at an all girls school not knowing how to deal with men.

Why are you assuming that I'd have this concern about an all boys school and not about an all girls school?

Because colleges include men and women but no concern was expressed for the oppressed women who haven't been around boys until college.

To quote my original comment: "A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world." I don't think boys coming out of an all-boys environment OR girls coming out of an all-girls environment are as well prepared as they should be for what comes next. The transition to college is already a challenging one, I see no reason to make it yet more challenging for my children.

I know plenty of kids coming out of co-ed schools ill prepared for college, probably more than half of high school seniors. That people are worried about boys coming from all boys schools might find college challenging is highly amusing. Thanks for the laugh.

Sure, there are plenty of ways a student might end up ill-equipped for college. Why add to that list unnecessarily?

Because it’s a made up issue. It’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine.

It is not a made up issue. This thread is supposed to be about pros and cons. If folks dont want to hear about cons, start a new thread that is all boys school pros only (and we dont want any disagreement). I think most folks reading this want differing opinions to inform their decision.

You have no facts just opinions. Coed schools have a lot of coed issues which can be a major distraction. So, there’s that.

Yes - and coed environments as a collective are much bigger contributors to the problem of “toxic masculinity.” You can get rid of all the all-boys schools without making a dent in that problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble understanding why a parent wouldn't want their boys learning to be comfortable with a co-ed learning environment, given that colleges, graduate schools, and workplaces all tend to include both men and women. A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world.

And nobody worries about girls at an all girls school not knowing how to deal with men.

Why are you assuming that I'd have this concern about an all boys school and not about an all girls school?

Because colleges include men and women but no concern was expressed for the oppressed women who haven't been around boys until college.

To quote my original comment: "A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world." I don't think boys coming out of an all-boys environment OR girls coming out of an all-girls environment are as well prepared as they should be for what comes next. The transition to college is already a challenging one, I see no reason to make it yet more challenging for my children.

I know plenty of kids coming out of co-ed schools ill prepared for college, probably more than half of high school seniors. That people are worried about boys coming from all boys schools might find college challenging is highly amusing. Thanks for the laugh.

Sure, there are plenty of ways a student might end up ill-equipped for college. Why add to that list unnecessarily?

Because it’s a made up issue. It’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine.

It is not a made up issue. This thread is supposed to be about pros and cons. If folks dont want to hear about cons, start a new thread that is all boys school pros only (and we dont want any disagreement). I think most folks reading this want differing opinions to inform their decision.

You have no facts just opinions. Coed schools have a lot of coed issues which can be a major distraction. So, there’s that.

Yes - and coed environments as a collective are much bigger contributors to the problem of “toxic masculinity.” You can get rid of all the all-boys schools without making a dent in that problem.

On what grounds are you saying that coed environments are "much bigger contributors" to that problem?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble understanding why a parent wouldn't want their boys learning to be comfortable with a co-ed learning environment, given that colleges, graduate schools, and workplaces all tend to include both men and women. A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world.

And nobody worries about girls at an all girls school not knowing how to deal with men.

Why are you assuming that I'd have this concern about an all boys school and not about an all girls school?

Because colleges include men and women but no concern was expressed for the oppressed women who haven't been around boys until college.

To quote my original comment: "A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world." I don't think boys coming out of an all-boys environment OR girls coming out of an all-girls environment are as well prepared as they should be for what comes next. The transition to college is already a challenging one, I see no reason to make it yet more challenging for my children.

I know plenty of kids coming out of co-ed schools ill prepared for college, probably more than half of high school seniors. That people are worried about boys coming from all boys schools might find college challenging is highly amusing. Thanks for the laugh.

Sure, there are plenty of ways a student might end up ill-equipped for college. Why add to that list unnecessarily?

Because it’s a made up issue. It’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine.

It is not a made up issue. This thread is supposed to be about pros and cons. If folks dont want to hear about cons, start a new thread that is all boys school pros only (and we dont want any disagreement). I think most folks reading this want differing opinions to inform their decision.

You have no facts just opinions. Coed schools have a lot of coed issues which can be a major distraction. So, there’s that.

Yes - and coed environments as a collective are much bigger contributors to the problem of “toxic masculinity.” You can get rid of all the all-boys schools without making a dent in that problem.

On what grounds are you saying that coed environments are "much bigger contributors" to that problem?

Probably from the same book that says boys from all boys environment can't function around women.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble understanding why a parent wouldn't want their boys learning to be comfortable with a co-ed learning environment, given that colleges, graduate schools, and workplaces all tend to include both men and women. A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world.

And nobody worries about girls at an all girls school not knowing how to deal with men.

Why are you assuming that I'd have this concern about an all boys school and not about an all girls school?

Because colleges include men and women but no concern was expressed for the oppressed women who haven't been around boys until college.

To quote my original comment: "A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world." I don't think boys coming out of an all-boys environment OR girls coming out of an all-girls environment are as well prepared as they should be for what comes next. The transition to college is already a challenging one, I see no reason to make it yet more challenging for my children.

I know plenty of kids coming out of co-ed schools ill prepared for college, probably more than half of high school seniors. That people are worried about boys coming from all boys schools might find college challenging is highly amusing. Thanks for the laugh.

Sure, there are plenty of ways a student might end up ill-equipped for college. Why add to that list unnecessarily?

Because it’s a made up issue. It’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine.

It is not a made up issue. This thread is supposed to be about pros and cons. If folks dont want to hear about cons, start a new thread that is all boys school pros only (and we dont want any disagreement). I think most folks reading this want differing opinions to inform their decision.

You have no facts just opinions. Coed schools have a lot of coed issues which can be a major distraction. So, there’s that.

Yes - and coed environments as a collective are much bigger contributors to the problem of “toxic masculinity.” You can get rid of all the all-boys schools without making a dent in that problem.

On what grounds are you saying that coed environments are "much bigger contributors" to that problem?

Probably from the same book that says boys from all boys environment can't function around women.

I don't understand why you're linking the ideas that coed environments are much bigger contributors to toxic masculinity with the idea that boys from all boys environments can't function around women. They seem to be opposing ideas.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble understanding why a parent wouldn't want their boys learning to be comfortable with a co-ed learning environment, given that colleges, graduate schools, and workplaces all tend to include both men and women. A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world.

And nobody worries about girls at an all girls school not knowing how to deal with men.

Why are you assuming that I'd have this concern about an all boys school and not about an all girls school?

Because colleges include men and women but no concern was expressed for the oppressed women who haven't been around boys until college.

To quote my original comment: "A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world." I don't think boys coming out of an all-boys environment OR girls coming out of an all-girls environment are as well prepared as they should be for what comes next. The transition to college is already a challenging one, I see no reason to make it yet more challenging for my children.

I know plenty of kids coming out of co-ed schools ill prepared for college, probably more than half of high school seniors. That people are worried about boys coming from all boys schools might find college challenging is highly amusing. Thanks for the laugh.

Sure, there are plenty of ways a student might end up ill-equipped for college. Why add to that list unnecessarily?

Because it’s a made up issue. It’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine.

It is not a made up issue. This thread is supposed to be about pros and cons. If folks dont want to hear about cons, start a new thread that is all boys school pros only (and we dont want any disagreement). I think most folks reading this want differing opinions to inform their decision.

You have no facts just opinions. Coed schools have a lot of coed issues which can be a major distraction. So, there’s that.

Yes - and coed environments as a collective are much bigger contributors to the problem of “toxic masculinity.” You can get rid of all the all-boys schools without making a dent in that problem.

On what grounds are you saying that coed environments are "much bigger contributors" to that problem?

Probably from the same book that says boys from all boys environment can't function around women.

I don't understand why you're linking the ideas that coed environments are much bigger contributors to toxic masculinity with the idea that boys from all boys environments can't function around women. They seem to be opposing ideas.

You want to argue without facts, that's what you get. You demand facts but provide none of your own.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble understanding why a parent wouldn't want their boys learning to be comfortable with a co-ed learning environment, given that colleges, graduate schools, and workplaces all tend to include both men and women. A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world.

And nobody worries about girls at an all girls school not knowing how to deal with men.

Why are you assuming that I'd have this concern about an all boys school and not about an all girls school?

Because colleges include men and women but no concern was expressed for the oppressed women who haven't been around boys until college.

To quote my original comment: "A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world." I don't think boys coming out of an all-boys environment OR girls coming out of an all-girls environment are as well prepared as they should be for what comes next. The transition to college is already a challenging one, I see no reason to make it yet more challenging for my children.

I know plenty of kids coming out of co-ed schools ill prepared for college, probably more than half of high school seniors. That people are worried about boys coming from all boys schools might find college challenging is highly amusing. Thanks for the laugh.

Sure, there are plenty of ways a student might end up ill-equipped for college. Why add to that list unnecessarily?

Because it’s a made up issue. It’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine.

It is not a made up issue. This thread is supposed to be about pros and cons. If folks dont want to hear about cons, start a new thread that is all boys school pros only (and we dont want any disagreement). I think most folks reading this want differing opinions to inform their decision.

You have no facts just opinions. Coed schools have a lot of coed issues which can be a major distraction. So, there’s that.

Yes - and coed environments as a collective are much bigger contributors to the problem of “toxic masculinity.” You can get rid of all the all-boys schools without making a dent in that problem.

On what grounds are you saying that coed environments are "much bigger contributors" to that problem?

Probably from the same book that says boys from all boys environment can't function around women.

I don't understand why you're linking the ideas that coed environments are much bigger contributors to toxic masculinity with the idea that boys from all boys environments can't function around women. They seem to be opposing ideas.

You want to argue without facts, that's what you get. You demand facts but provide none of your own.

Surely logical consistency is possible, in any event?

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Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble understanding why a parent wouldn't want their boys learning to be comfortable with a co-ed learning environment, given that colleges, graduate schools, and workplaces all tend to include both men and women. A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world.

And nobody worries about girls at an all girls school not knowing how to deal with men.

Why are you assuming that I'd have this concern about an all boys school and not about an all girls school?

Because colleges include men and women but no concern was expressed for the oppressed women who haven't been around boys until college.

To quote my original comment: "A child coming out of a single sex environment will always, necessarily, be less well prepared for the real world." I don't think boys coming out of an all-boys environment OR girls coming out of an all-girls environment are as well prepared as they should be for what comes next. The transition to college is already a challenging one, I see no reason to make it yet more challenging for my children.

I know plenty of kids coming out of co-ed schools ill prepared for college, probably more than half of high school seniors. That people are worried about boys coming from all boys schools might find college challenging is highly amusing. Thanks for the laugh.

Sure, there are plenty of ways a student might end up ill-equipped for college. Why add to that list unnecessarily?

Because it’s a made up issue. It’s not your cup of tea and that’s fine.

It is not a made up issue. This thread is supposed to be about pros and cons. If folks dont want to hear about cons, start a new thread that is all boys school pros only (and we dont want any disagreement). I think most folks reading this want differing opinions to inform their decision.

You have no facts just opinions. Coed schools have a lot of coed issues which can be a major distraction. So, there’s that.

Yes - and coed environments as a collective are much bigger contributors to the problem of “toxic masculinity.” You can get rid of all the all-boys schools without making a dent in that problem.

On what grounds are you saying that coed environments are "much bigger contributors" to that problem?

Probably from the same book that says boys from all boys environment can't function around women.

I don't understand why you're linking the ideas that coed environments are much bigger contributors to toxic masculinity with the idea that boys from all boys environments can't function around women. They seem to be opposing ideas.

You want to argue without facts, that's what you get. You demand facts but provide none of your own.

Surely logical consistency is possible, in any event?

You're going to have to try harder than that if you want to be taken seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

My brother has 2 boys who go to public school. Two of my kids go to co-ed Catholic elementary school, the oldest is at an all boys HS. My nephews have no idea how to play, interact or talk to my daughter. They ignore and flat out reject her like she doesn't exist.

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Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

Given the politics of the moment, it makes so much sense that there would be posters on here fervently pushing the manosphere. It may be fine for some families, but that doesn't make it a factor families should ignore in deciding on a school!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

Again this is school dependent and based on your perspective.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

Given the politics of the moment, it makes so much sense that there would be posters on here fervently pushing the manosphere. It may be fine for some families, but that doesn't make it a factor families should ignore in deciding on a school!

So did you tour a school and see it for yourself or just decide based on "logic" that this must be the case?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

They may love it, but that doesnt mean they are better or better off there. Have them check in in 20 years and see what they would say.

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Anonymous wrote:In laws all went to single-sex Catholic high schools. I would say the ranking from least well adjusted to more normal is:

-boys without sisters
-girls without brothers
-girls with brothers / boys with sisters

The boys from all-boy families who went to all-boys schools are clueless about women.

This resonates with me. My brother has 2 boys, and they go to an all-boys Catholic HS, and both play baseball. He/they would say it is a very positive experience. They love the community and camaraderie, and I can see it through the photos he shares, social media, etc. But, the boys are also in the 'manosphere' culture, which they are happy with, but wouldn't be a fit for our family.

Given the politics of the moment, it makes so much sense that there would be posters on here fervently pushing the manosphere. It may be fine for some families, but that doesn't make it a factor families should ignore in deciding on a school!

So did you tour a school and see it for yourself or just decide based on "logic" that this must be the case?

Toured with my DS. He has ADHD, and I was considering whether the issue was that coed schools are set up for girls rather than boys. Not a fan of what I saw. Better for DS to learn how to function in an environment that asks more of him, even if it takes him longer to get there.