Bias against privates high school in admissions?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do you really think a ton of the kids getting in are 1st gen? They are being sought because they have mire hurdles and are underrepresented. Do you get what underrepresented means? There aren't that many of them. I wish people would stop focusing on the underrepresented few. Those kids are not "beating out" some private school kid for the same spot. That's not how it works.

In fact, there are lots of URMs and FGLIs.

Huge open and vocal priority for certain schools. See Dartmouth. Except it YRM/FG/Rural and international that’s their focus

Because there are not many of these students on campus. Have you ever been to Dartmouth? The number of private school kids is staggering. When we went for admitted students day, so many were swanky private kids. Very few URMs and almost no first gen. They realize this needs to be a priority, and good for them. My kid might have accepted if there were more diversity. So many Chets....

I'm not the PP - but I'd argue that while Dartmouth loves private school kids, they love private school kids who can bring diversity in spades!

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Look I know this is an uncomfortable topic. Probably one you’ll want to deny if you have a kid in private. But could we have a frank convo about this? I have multiple friends with kids in privates who have top grades and SAT scores but don’t get into schools that their public counterparts do. Like UVA for example.

I get it-there’s a backlash against the perceived privilege of privates, but how bad is it? I keep hearing about first generation college students being what’s sought after. How true is this?

We are debating public vs private for high school. DS has been accepted to an elite private for upper school but has a great public. We see so many intangible benefits to attending the private, things like character and social skills and being more in alignment with our family values. Public has a solid education & offers great academics but lacks the focus on those things. And I have a number of friends with kids from privates that didn’t get into schools their public counterparts did. To the point that I’m being warned to go public instead!

How true is this? I get that college overall is so much harder to get into-but is there a bias against privates now in admissions?? Have you experienced this?

So public doesn't have your values? That comment alone shows how clueless you are. You think privates do?

Publics are full of people taking free handouts from taxpayers. They don’t want to pay the cost of raising their own children. They want the government to fund their kids and their decisions.

At private we fund our own kids.

Thank you so much for your tax dollars that sent my kid to top-25. 🙏🏻

And, from the other thread I’m not going to take my free handout from you and give it my kids before I’m in the cold hard earth. 😘

Glad you realize who is actually funding your children’s education in public school. The wealthy taxpayers in private school.

Nah, I'm the wealthy one since I didn't shell out for privates. Isn't that your point? That I saved $650K on K-12. With all the interest I made in the stock market, I didn't do too shabby. It helped me pay $340K for that top school I apparently stole from OP's kid.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(I posted this in private schools but I think it’s maybe more relevant here)


Look I know this is an uncomfortable topic. Probably one you’ll want to deny if you have a kid in private. But could we have a frank convo about this? I have multiple friends with kids in privates who have top grades and SAT scores but don’t get into schools that their public counterparts do. Like UVA for example.

I get it-there’s a backlash against the perceived privilege of privates, but how bad is it? I keep hearing about first generation college students being what’s sought after. How true is this?

We are debating public vs private for high school. DS has been accepted to an elite private for upper school but has a great public. We see so many intangible benefits to attending the private, things like character and social skills and being more in alignment with our family values. Public has a solid education & offers great academics but lacks the focus on those things. And I have a number of friends with kids from privates that didn’t get into schools their public counterparts did. To the point that I’m being warned to go public instead!

How true is this? I get that college overall is so much harder to get into-but is there a bias against privates now in admissions?? Have you experienced this?

So public doesn't have your values? That comment alone shows how clueless you are. You think privates do?

Publics are full of people taking free handouts from taxpayers. They don’t want to pay the cost of raising their own children. They want the government to fund their kids and their decisions.

At private we fund our own kids.

Thank you so much for your tax dollars that sent my kid to top-25. 🙏🏻

And, from the other thread I’m not going to take my free handout from you and give it my kids before I’m in the cold hard earth. 😘

Glad you realize who is actually funding your children’s education in public school. The wealthy taxpayers in private school.

Nah, I'm the wealthy one since I didn't shell out for privates. Isn't that your point? That I saved $650K on K-12. With all the interest I made in the stock market, I didn't do too shabby. It helped me pay $340K for that top school I apparently stole from OP's kid.

Glad the assistance allowed you to get back on your feet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Be aware that the bias may extend to "good publics" with privileged students, too. "Success stories" in "bad schools" tend to stand out more.

I interview kids from a well regarded magnet every year for my alma mater. None of them ever get in. It's almost a punch line. I mean, someone gets in from there, but none of the (very impressive) students I interview. They probably would have been better off at their base schools, or even better some random HS in PG.

There's always an advantage for the same kid with the same stats to going lower on the HS food chain. How low are you willing to go? Your kid could clean up by going to a Title I school in Indiana, but then they're in a Title I school in Indiana.

I'm happy with my kid at a mid tier private.

[Anonymous]

look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

Wealthy private school parents are funding the bulk of those through taxes also.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

Wealthy private school parents are funding the bulk of those through taxes also.

You are assuming the private school parents are the wealthy ones. Some are yes. Some are not. You’re view of the world is incredibly myopic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

Wealthy private school parents are funding the bulk of those through taxes also.

You are assuming the private school parents are the wealthy ones. Some are yes. Some are not. You’re view of the world is incredibly myopic.

And yet I know what myopic means. You do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(I posted this in private schools but I think it’s maybe more relevant here)


Look I know this is an uncomfortable topic. Probably one you’ll want to deny if you have a kid in private. But could we have a frank convo about this? I have multiple friends with kids in privates who have top grades and SAT scores but don’t get into schools that their public counterparts do. Like UVA for example.

I get it-there’s a backlash against the perceived privilege of privates, but how bad is it? I keep hearing about first generation college students being what’s sought after. How true is this?

We are debating public vs private for high school. DS has been accepted to an elite private for upper school but has a great public. We see so many intangible benefits to attending the private, things like character and social skills and being more in alignment with our family values. Public has a solid education & offers great academics but lacks the focus on those things. And I have a number of friends with kids from privates that didn’t get into schools their public counterparts did. To the point that I’m being warned to go public instead!

How true is this? I get that college overall is so much harder to get into-but is there a bias against privates now in admissions?? Have you experienced this?

So public doesn't have your values? That comment alone shows how clueless you are. You think privates do?

Publics are full of people taking free handouts from taxpayers. They don’t want to pay the cost of raising their own children. They want the government to fund their kids and their decisions.

At private we fund our own kids.

Thank you so much for your tax dollars that sent my kid to top-25. 🙏🏻

And, from the other thread I’m not going to take my free handout from you and give it my kids before I’m in the cold hard earth. 😘

Glad you realize who is actually funding your children’s education in public school. The wealthy taxpayers in private school.

Stop.

You are welcome.

No one thanked you. You made choices and pay your share of taxes. No different from people who don’t use libraries or parks or ball fields. We pay for stuff in taxes that we may or may not use.

One year of our taxes is over 100x your taxes. You are not pulling your weight.

Dp
I'm now curious what your savings and hhi are, care to share? Are you pulling in 200mil annually or what gives?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

Wealthy private school parents are funding the bulk of those through taxes also.

You are assuming the private school parents are the wealthy ones. Some are yes. Some are not. You’re view of the world is incredibly myopic.

And yet I know what myopic means. You do not.

Clearly you don’t. You also avoid all statements about you and divert the issue away from you being labeled an arrogant snob.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Be aware that the bias may extend to "good publics" with privileged students, too. "Success stories" in "bad schools" tend to stand out more.

I interview kids from a well regarded magnet every year for my alma mater. None of them ever get in. It's almost a punch line. I mean, someone gets in from there, but none of the (very impressive) students I interview. They probably would have been better off at their base schools, or even better some random HS in PG.

There's always an advantage for the same kid with the same stats to going lower on the HS food chain. How low are you willing to go? Your kid could clean up by going to a Title I school in Indiana, but then they're in a Title I school in Indiana.

I'm happy with my kid at a mid tier private.

Students from that school get in but none that you interview.

Good illustration for why alum interviews are being phased out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Be aware that the bias may extend to "good publics" with privileged students, too. "Success stories" in "bad schools" tend to stand out more.

I interview kids from a well regarded magnet every year for my alma mater. None of them ever get in. It's almost a punch line. I mean, someone gets in from there, but none of the (very impressive) students I interview. They probably would have been better off at their base schools, or even better some random HS in PG.

There's always an advantage for the same kid with the same stats to going lower on the HS food chain. How low are you willing to go? Your kid could clean up by going to a Title I school in Indiana, but then they're in a Title I school in Indiana.

I'm happy with my kid at a mid tier private.

Students from that school get in but none that you interview.

Good illustration for why alum interviews are being phased out.

Proof?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

Wealthy private school parents are funding the bulk of those through taxes also.

You are assuming the private school parents are the wealthy ones. Some are yes. Some are not. You’re view of the world is incredibly myopic.

And yet I know what myopic means. You do not.

+1 Person who calls non-woke posters myopic is tiresome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

Wealthy private school parents are funding the bulk of those through taxes also.

You are assuming the private school parents are the wealthy ones. Some are yes. Some are not. You’re view of the world is incredibly myopic.

And yet I know what myopic means. You do not.

+1 Person who calls non-woke posters myopic is tiresome.

Woke isn’t the issue. It is myopic to believe private school parents fund the bulk of publically accessed things like roads, public schools, public works, etc through their taxes is what’s myopic. It shows a lack of understanding, or is myopic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:look up what your private school got in PPP "loans" and get back to us on.

taxpayers also pay for the roads, the fire department, the police, the snowplows, the garbage removal, the sidewalks, the access to internet/sewer/elec that your tax-free school enjoys.

Wealthy private school parents are funding the bulk of those through taxes also.

You are assuming the private school parents are the wealthy ones. Some are yes. Some are not. You’re view of the world is incredibly myopic.

And yet I know what myopic means. You do not.

+1 Person who calls non-woke posters myopic is tiresome.

Woke isn’t the issue. It is myopic to believe private school parents fund the bulk of publically accessed things like roads, public schools, public works, etc through their taxes is what’s myopic. It shows a lack of understanding, or is myopic.

Still don’t think you grasp the meaning.