RTO in many cases is the height of hubris.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just cannot imagine another situation where I would ask people to spend 10-20h per week, and hundreds of dollars, so they can physically sit in a different location for absolutely no reason other than that I can force them to be in the same location as myself because 'they have a choice to work here or not'. I would be so embarrassed and ashamed to enact that policy if it was not 100% necessary. RTO is the Bill Lumbergh from Office Space of policies.
It would be one thing if someone is in the medical profession or needs to physically interact with someone else. But to take 10-20h away from other human beings, away from their family and their health and their rest, given we have one life to live, when we KNOW it's not necessary, is to me downright cruel and just the height of hubris and arrogance. I cannot imagine wanting my employees lives to be worse, instead of better, if better was an option.
We're all going to die. Sure we have to work, but do you really need me to sit on a train for hours each week so I can do zoom calls from a specific room you designate, when we've proven that we are now a digital society and do not need to do this?
It's just so amazingly tone deaf and selfish.


Your post is stupid. Sorry -- no other way around it. You do need to be in the same room with people for any job where you plan to either learn something or get promoted. Not needed for other types of jobs.


No. Did you pull that out of your ass?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had some quit this week due to RTO. Quite Frankly she was good and smart but no longer worth the effort.

It was embarrassing near the end her reign to dial in and zoom into in person meetings that were in person. when she did come, late, leaving early, calling out. In the end she tried to get at 15 hour in person work week. 5 hours a day three days and when she attempted that first 15 minutes were breakfast, then a 30 minute lunch and another 15 minute of coffee bathroom breaks. So really a 4 hour day. She kept fighting for 2021 and 100 percent remote.

More power to her I am sure she will find it at another place. But don’t try to bend a company to your will.



It is beyond creepy to me that you were micromanaging and spying on her time like this. You said yourself she was a good worker and smart and yet you spent time at your office obsessively watching your recording her? I’m betting she didn’t leave because of return to work.

Also, work has changed and unless she was doing data entry, it makes no sense to sit and bang a keyboard for hours on end. If you are a knowledge worker of course you need some time to disconnect your mind from the task… 20 minutes is about the average productivity time Most people can focus on something maybe stretching to 45 but otherwise you really need to get up and walk around and disconnect.

This is completely normal and appropriate behavior and I’m so glad this woman found a better fit.


The pp you are responding to is a sexist boomer dinosaur and likely won't be able to grasp anything you're saying.
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