If you are wealthy would you send your kids to a W school over private?

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.

It’s all relative dear. You are under an illusion because your kid competes with low performing students. So anything can easily look “motivated.” I would much prefer an environment where you are surrounded by excellence.

So if my kid was in private school, s/he would have gotten better than an A in AP lang and better than a 5 on the AP test? Is that what you’re saying, DEAR?

It’s not all about AP tests. The top private schools go beyond the AP curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.

It’s all relative dear. You are under an illusion because your kid competes with low performing students. So anything can easily look “motivated.” I would much prefer an environment where you are surrounded by excellence.

So if my kid was in private school, s/he would have gotten better than an A in AP lang and better than a 5 on the AP test? Is that what you’re saying, DEAR?

See my recent comment. It is not impossible, so I will give you that. But for the most part, it is highly unlikely. Lots of kids in public school supplement with tutors and strive to get ahead. Luckily my kid only has to attend class to get the same result, and consequently doesn't waste time on tutors. She is doing amazing things outside of the classroom as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.

No educator worth their salt is going to tell you kids don’t benefit from being around other motivated kids or suffer from being around mediocrity.

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No way private if you have a self motivated kid. Mine is in a W school with friends at all the privates as well. The math and course options are incredible i our public. The exception would be for social status if that is your thing at say, Sidwell. Or possible GDS. Definitely not the Catholics. Definitely not the B list schools. There are 2-3 A list schools that are nationally recognized.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.

No educator worth their salt is going to tell you kids don’t benefit from being around other motivated kids or suffer from being around mediocrity.

I’m not disputing that generality. What I’m telling you is it’s not affecting my child in the slightest. In fact, it motivates them to work harder because s/he sees the slackers and doesn’t want to be like them.

I’m glad private works for you. Public is working for us. Everyone has reasons for their choices. But to come on here and start bashing the quality of public education because it wouldn’t work for your kid is just a$$holery.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

Every MCPS school (including non-W) has extremely smart motivated kids who want to excel, and they do. It is up to your kid. And, many of the wealthy, entitled kids at privates seem even less motivated knowing they can rely on their wealth and connections. Public school kids aren’t coddled, they work hard and make it happen. That environment of truly motivated kids has been great for DS.

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Anonymous wrote:No way private if you have a self motivated kid. Mine is in a W school with friends at all the privates as well. The math and course options are incredible i our public. The exception would be for social status if that is your thing at say, Sidwell. Or possible GDS. Definitely not the Catholics. Definitely not the B list schools. There are 2-3 A list schools that are nationally recognized.

Agree. Blair’s hs course selection reads like a college registration booklet. The offerings are incredible.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.

It’s all relative dear. You are under an illusion because your kid competes with low performing students. So anything can easily look “motivated.” I would much prefer an environment where you are surrounded by excellence.

So if my kid was in private school, s/he would have gotten better than an A in AP lang and better than a 5 on the AP test? Is that what you’re saying, DEAR?

It’s not all about AP tests. The top private schools go beyond the AP curriculum.

Do you get tired of constantly moving the goalposts? Must be a full time job to justify the tuition money you’re blowing for all that “beyond AP curriculum.”

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Anonymous wrote:No way private if you have a self motivated kid. Mine is in a W school with friends at all the privates as well. The math and course options are incredible i our public. The exception would be for social status if that is your thing at say, Sidwell. Or possible GDS. Definitely not the Catholics. Definitely not the B list schools. There are 2-3 A list schools that are nationally recognized.

+1 the course and club offerings in the larger publics are going to be more varied than a small private school, not to mention you have more types of kids to find your tribe in a larger school.

Someone stated up thread, and I agree, that if your DC needs a smaller class size, then private is worth it. But if you want the variety and diversity not just racially but socially and personality, then large public is your better option, even better if your kid is "gifted" and can get into one of the magnet programs.

Obviously, you are purely looking for the connections that the very elite privates can offer, then sure, but I don't think their academics are that much better than a wealthy public school.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

Every MCPS school (including non-W) has extremely smart motivated kids who want to excel, and they do. It is up to your kid. And, many of the wealthy, entitled kids at privates seem even less motivated knowing they can rely on their wealth and connections. Public school kids aren’t coddled, they work hard and make it happen. That environment of truly motivated kids has been great for DS.

Ah yes. Potomac, Bethesda, and Chevy Chase kids who go to MCPS schools aren’t coddled.

Give me a fking break.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

You sound delightful!

Just kidding. You sound like an a$$.

NP — have fun giving your kid a subpar education.

What makes you think my child is getting a subpar education?

If they’re in MCPS and aren’t in a magnet program, they are.

What's "par"?

Actually being proficient in math and reading would be a good start.

My gen pop non W rising senior got a 5 on AP lang. Also scores high in MAP. Lets hear why this still isn’t proof that her education isn’t sub par…

Is you kids polished? Can he dress properly? Look a man in the eye and shake hands properly ?
Does he have a Rolodex of very wealthy friends that can get him a job with the snap of a finger?

What does this have to do with school academics? And yes most of our kids can do these things because they are taught at home. You know that place where involved parents instill values, and manners.

That is part of education and what you pay for in many private schools.

I see kids from Whitman leaving school. They look like they just rolled out of bed wearing pajamas. Many might be smart but have zero social skills or polish...not what I want in a child.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.

It’s all relative dear. You are under an illusion because your kid competes with low performing students. So anything can easily look “motivated.” I would much prefer an environment where you are surrounded by excellence.

So if my kid was in private school, s/he would have gotten better than an A in AP lang and better than a 5 on the AP test? Is that what you’re saying, DEAR?

It’s not all about AP tests. The top private schools go beyond the AP curriculum.

Do you get tired of constantly moving the goalposts? Must be a full time job to justify the tuition money you’re blowing for all that “beyond AP curriculum.”

Actually my kid is in lower ES and is thriving in small classes and a curriculum that goes well beyond the state testing subjects (reading and math). We love that she has integrated art, music, ample recess and PE time every single day, and perhaps most importantly, two highly qualified teachers who team teach 16 kids. We love that her class put on 3 plays this past year and that the plays integrated concepts across subject areas.

We love that we get detailed feedback on where she is not only academically, but also socio-emotionally. By October of last year, her teachers knew the nuances that would change in her personality when she was getting frustrated and told us exactly how they tailored how they taught her to help convince her to not give up.

What you don’t understand is that a high quality private school, especially for ES, is so much about letting teachers teach by giving them ample resources and small class sizes.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

You sound delightful!

Just kidding. You sound like an a$$.

NP — have fun giving your kid a subpar education.

What makes you think my child is getting a subpar education?

If they’re in MCPS and aren’t in a magnet program, they are.

What's "par"?

Actually being proficient in math and reading would be a good start.

My gen pop non W rising senior got a 5 on AP lang. Also scores high in MAP. Lets hear why this still isn’t proof that her education isn’t sub par…

Is you kids polished? Can he dress properly? Look a man in the eye and shake hands properly ?
Does he have a Rolodex of very wealthy friends that can get him a job with the snap of a finger?

What does this have to do with school academics? And yes most of our kids can do these things because they are taught at home. You know that place where involved parents instill values, and manners.

That is part of education and what you pay for in many private schools.

I see kids from Whitman leaving school. They look like they just rolled out of bed wearing pajamas. Many might be smart but have zero social skills or polish...not what I want in a child.

Yup. I see them in the Potomac Starbucks acting like idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

You sound delightful!

Just kidding. You sound like an a$$.

NP — have fun giving your kid a subpar education.

What makes you think my child is getting a subpar education?

If they’re in MCPS and aren’t in a magnet program, they are.

What's "par"?

Actually being proficient in math and reading would be a good start.

My gen pop non W rising senior got a 5 on AP lang. Also scores high in MAP. Lets hear why this still isn’t proof that her education isn’t sub par…

Is you kids polished? Can he dress properly? Look a man in the eye and shake hands properly ?
Does he have a Rolodex of very wealthy friends that can get him a job with the snap of a finger?

What does this have to do with school academics? And yes most of our kids can do these things because they are taught at home. You know that place where involved parents instill values, and manners.

That is part of education and what you pay for in many private schools.

I see kids from Whitman leaving school. They look like they just rolled out of bed wearing pajamas. Many might be smart but have zero social skills or polish...not what I want in a child.

If you want polish, that’s fine! Just don’t pretend you chose private for the “superior academics” and trash public in the process.

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Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.

The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!

+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?

Lol I didn’t know I was famous!

My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.

Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.

If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.

Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.

Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.

MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.

Earth to this poster: Covid is over.

I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?

Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.

We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.

Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.

That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.

LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.

You’re exaggerating.

Oh really?

So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/

You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.

As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.

This x1000

It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.

I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.

Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.

My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.

It’s all relative dear. You are under an illusion because your kid competes with low performing students. So anything can easily look “motivated.” I would much prefer an environment where you are surrounded by excellence.

So if my kid was in private school, s/he would have gotten better than an A in AP lang and better than a 5 on the AP test? Is that what you’re saying, DEAR?

It’s not all about AP tests. The top private schools go beyond the AP curriculum.

Do you get tired of constantly moving the goalposts? Must be a full time job to justify the tuition money you’re blowing for all that “beyond AP curriculum.”

Actually my kid is in lower ES and is thriving in small classes and a curriculum that goes well beyond the state testing subjects (reading and math). We love that she has integrated art, music, ample recess and PE time every single day, and perhaps most importantly, two highly qualified teachers who team teach 16 kids. We love that her class put on 3 plays this past year and that the plays integrated concepts across subject areas.

We love that we get detailed feedback on where she is not only academically, but also socio-emotionally. By October of last year, her teachers knew the nuances that would change in her personality when she was getting frustrated and told us exactly how they tailored how they taught her to help convince her to not give up.

What you don’t understand is that a high quality private school, especially for ES, is so much about letting teachers teach by giving them ample resources and small class sizes.

If your kid needs that, then clearly private is for you! Mine doesn’t, they’re flourishing in MCPS.

Let’s just be honest that it’s not about the academics.