See hy do so many want Federal government jobs?

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Anonymous wrote:When Yale Law School attorneys (and sometimes attorneys from other law schools) go into things like “public service,” academia, nonprofits, government, and all of the jobs of the law firm grid, what they are doing is about as brilliant as it can get. They are finding groups with a ton of money that will pay them the most amount of rent for the least amount of accountability to the economy. They are escaping the market economy and going into a place where these rules do not apply.
“When you take a job with the government, you work for a largely inefficient employer with a near-limitless supply of work and money. There is less oversight. If you are inefficient with your time, there is no “client” to question your bills. Sit down and work forever, leave at 5:30 and enjoy the ride. You can also enjoy your health and life a great deal more. Layoff? Quite rare—you are not part of the normal economy.”

What nonsense! This is a fantasy whoever wrote this. I know lawyers and technical experts at several different agencies: irs, commerce, patents, fda, immigration. Budgets are cut all the time. Congress slashes entire budgets randomly. Caseloads are tracked and high percentage of efficiency is required. I don’t know anyone not putting in ‘love’ time especially at gs15. No, it’s not partner hours but it’s certainly not partner pay. Whoever wrote that has never worked as or really known any feds.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a senior manager at a NGO and covet a federal job because (1) the pay is a bit better, (2) I presume there will be less stress without the constant pressure to fundraise, (3) I still get to work in a mission-focused organization.

I am a former fed going back to nonprofit because of the political interference in the work and being sexually harassed. Grass is greener.

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“Caseloads are tracked and high percentage of efficiency is required.”

Lol. What happens to an employee if this efficiency requirement isn’t met? A nasty gram? A mean look?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't want to be a fed. I was laid off from a corporate job and someone sent me a USA job link that was a perfect fit.

I stayed because it is low stress, family friendly, work I enjoy, and stable. My salary is close to $200K and I can get my kids off the bus, go to important events, and take vacation without checking in. The balance of being there for my family while earning a decent salary is my why.

Same!

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Anonymous wrote:It's hard to get fired so it's easy to slack and still get paid.

that's why I left government as a college student/intern in a program that guaranteed hire after graduation
The agency and department I was in had a bunch of slackers. I'd finish my work in like 2 hours and was bored the rest of the day. My colleagues were like shh. stop looking for more work you will mess it up for the rest of us. There was also some old guy in my group no one knew what he did he just showed up daily and played solitaire all day clearly waiting for retirement.

I am sure not every agency or department is like this but it didn't set an impression on me at that time. I went corporate and have had that layoff fear often through the years and have experienced my first layoff now at 50 yrs old. The pay I have made annually with equity would have exceeded the US President. My retirement is what I have saved in my 401k no pension. I enjoyed the more interesting work in corporate. Yes there are times I am envious of the job security, friends who have started retiring from fed jobs that graduated the same time I did, the waivers of their student loans due to public service. I'd probably like the boring job and stability at this age but I would have to drop to half the comp I am used to which would be a big adjustment.

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Anonymous wrote:It's hard to get fired so it's easy to slack and still get paid.

that's why I left government as a college student/intern in a program that guaranteed hire after graduation
The agency and department I was in had a bunch of slackers. I'd finish my work in like 2 hours and was bored the rest of the day. My colleagues were like shh. stop looking for more work you will mess it up for the rest of us. There was also some old guy in my group no one knew what he did he just showed up daily and played solitaire all day clearly waiting for retirement.

I am sure not every agency or department is like this but it didn't set an impression on me at that time. I went corporate and have had that layoff fear often through the years and have experienced my first layoff now at 50 yrs old. The pay I have made annually with equity would have exceeded the US President. My retirement is what I have saved in my 401k no pension. I enjoyed the more interesting work in corporate. Yes there are times I am envious of the job security, friends who have started retiring from fed jobs that graduated the same time I did, the waivers of their student loans due to public service. I'd probably like the boring job and stability at this age but I would have to drop to half the comp I am used to which would be a big adjustment.

Most are not. With over 2 million workers in Govt, you will see all sorts of people/programs. You were just unlucky with your first job.

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what is FinReg?

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Anonymous wrote:what is FinReg?

Financial Regular agencies

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I've been used to $500k total comp., full time remote, 9-5 schedule, interesting work while an in-house lawyer at a corporation after a 15 yr career there. Looking again at 50 yrs old due to layoff and have been contacted by mid-size law firm (been in-house whole career), several in-house roles pending more interview rounds ranging $350-$375k total comp. and saw a Fed Reserve Board role also stating max is $273k. After a layoff, the FRB is tempting.

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Why does literally every Fed on DCUM make $200+? Lol. I'd jump at that chance, too. However, the lawyer jobs I see on USA jobs pay much less, including federal ALJ jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does literally every Fed on DCUM make $200+? Lol. I'd jump at that chance, too. However, the lawyer jobs I see on USA jobs pay much less, including federal ALJ jobs.

Most have a career ladder, don’t they? So your pay would increase pretty quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does literally every Fed on DCUM make $200+? Lol. I'd jump at that chance, too. However, the lawyer jobs I see on USA jobs pay much less, including federal ALJ jobs.

Literally everyone? No, not even on DCUM. I make $160K and very many others post the same, but you are only noticing the higher salaries posted.

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Anonymous wrote:The ultimate life hack is dual husband-wife financial regulator household. Can make more than $500k, plus retirement, low stress, max flexibility, and perfect job security. Can buy a $1.8 mm house and still save and have vacations. Perfect.

Sad to see so many Dmv couples both grind at demanding jobs with so little predictability and family time. So silly and unnecessary. What’s the point?

^This. Financial regulator husband-wife will make at least 600K and that is on the low end.

Agreed, dual financial regulator household easily pulling in $2 million plus.

You must be joking.

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Anonymous wrote:The ultimate life hack is dual husband-wife financial regulator household. Can make more than $500k, plus retirement, low stress, max flexibility, and perfect job security. Can buy a $1.8 mm house and still save and have vacations. Perfect.

Sad to see so many Dmv couples both grind at demanding jobs with so little predictability and family time. So silly and unnecessary. What’s the point?

^This. Financial regulator husband-wife will make at least 600K and that is on the low end.

Maybe attorneys. I am a FinReg PA and make 170.

At my finreg, more than half of the 15-equivalent make $250k, the max.

More than half of the 15-equivalent is still not most people who work there, by any stretch of the imagination. That’s a very selective posting of information.

At my FinReg, out of 5800 employees, 663 are 15 equivalent. Out of those, 499 make $200 and over. That is 8% of the people at that particular FinReg.


Stop guessing.

This is all on FedScope for anyone to view.

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Anonymous wrote:The ultimate life hack is dual husband-wife financial regulator household. Can make more than $500k, plus retirement, low stress, max flexibility, and perfect job security. Can buy a $1.8 mm house and still save and have vacations. Perfect.

Sad to see so many Dmv couples both grind at demanding jobs with so little predictability and family time. So silly and unnecessary. What’s the point?

^This. Financial regulator husband-wife will make at least 600K and that is on the low end.

Maybe attorneys. I am a FinReg PA and make 170.

At my finreg, more than half of the 15-equivalent make $250k, the max.

More than half of the 15-equivalent is still not most people who work there, by any stretch of the imagination. That’s a very selective posting of information.

At my FinReg, out of 5800 employees, 663 are 15 equivalent. Out of those, 499 make $200 and over. That is 8% of the people at that particular FinReg.


Stop guessing.

This is all on FedScope for anyone to view.

And before anyone mentions it - I didn’t look up 14 equivalents, some of whom also make over $200K. But it’s still remotely not most people.