What public doesn’t teach

[Anonymous]

This thread is so funny. People get so worked up over defending their choices.

It’s unfair for parents whose kids have only gone to public schools as they really have nothing to compare to. I guess it’s similar for those only attending private, but that is less common.

My feeling having had multiple experiences at public and private (independent privates) is that private really is better on so many levels.

If your definition of ‘better’ is that your child is taking AP multivariable calculus in 10th grade (a skill that AI does and is really not going to be important for humans in the near future) then I guess public is the superior option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.

Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.

Correct, many of us consider these to be awful public schools just more of an academic knife fight than the others.

Oh please!! Lol. Look at how many schools those three schools send to HYP compared to most private schools…. I’ll wait.

There are better ways to get into HYP that won’t leave permanent damage.

I am actual grad of one the three NYC high schools and while I posted that they can stack up against any private, I’d never want my child to go there today. There’s just too much pressure. My point however is that privates do not necessarily give a better education. Many publics can compete head to head.

Many people are in private just to go to HYP but there are other pathways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. People get so worked up over defending their choices.

It’s unfair for parents whose kids have only gone to public schools as they really have nothing to compare to. I guess it’s similar for those only attending private, but that is less common.

My feeling having had multiple experiences at public and private (independent privates) is that private really is better on so many levels.

If your definition of ‘better’ is that your child is taking AP multivariable calculus in 10th grade (a skill that AI does and is really not going to be important for humans in the near future) then I guess public is the superior option.

You could say that about every subject & class. I majored in English in college. I only use basic math in my daily life. Yet, I am glad I took Calculus in high school, because it exercised my brain and improved my problem solving skills.

And you can count yourself among those getting worked up & defending your choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public doesn’t do nearly as good a job teaching kids that if your family is wealthy and/or connected, you can basically act with impunity at the expense of others. Public schools care about “equity” whereas private schools embrace the fact that money and power are all you really need in life.

There are many private schools that profess “equity.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.

Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.

Correct, many of us consider these to be awful public schools just more of an academic knife fight than the others.

Oh please!! Lol. Look at how many schools those three schools send to HYP compared to most private schools…. I’ll wait.

Most of us do not obsess over that like you do. We don’t need to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:*Refinement
*Class
*How to deal with the upper crust in business
*How to be quiet
*How to be a free thinker

These things are all learned at home.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why many of us consider public schools to be a failure.

Nobody is ever going to come out & say they regret spending $45,000/year on private.

The true cost of a free public education makes public a terrible deal. So many people regret using their public schools. That is what this thread is about.

When all is done, many regret private school. There are definite drawbacks. You make your choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We switched to private for MS and have been surprised by the eclectic gym classes, this year our DD had synchronized swimming and lacrosse as specialized units, among other things.

yes, because you're paying for all that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. People get so worked up over defending their choices.

It’s unfair for parents whose kids have only gone to public schools as they really have nothing to compare to. I guess it’s similar for those only attending private, but that is less common.

My feeling having had multiple experiences at public and private (independent privates) is that private really is better on so many levels.

If your definition of ‘better’ is that your child is taking AP multivariable calculus in 10th grade (a skill that AI does and is really not going to be important for humans in the near future) then I guess public is the superior option.

AI will make writing skills obsolete, too.

Also, it's not writers who will be supporting/developing AI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. People get so worked up over defending their choices.

It’s unfair for parents whose kids have only gone to public schools as they really have nothing to compare to. I guess it’s similar for those only attending private, but that is less common.

My feeling having had multiple experiences at public and private (independent privates) is that private really is better on so many levels.

If your definition of ‘better’ is that your child is taking AP multivariable calculus in 10th grade (a skill that AI does and is really not going to be important for humans in the near future) then I guess public is the superior option.

You could say that about every subject & class. I majored in English in college. I only use basic math in my daily life. Yet, I am glad I took Calculus in high school, because it exercised my brain and improved my problem solving skills.

And you can count yourself among those getting worked up & defending your choices.

+1 higher level math is about higher level complex, critical thinking, not about the actual math.

And yes, that person is also defending their choices. I guess the PP went to a public school that didn't teach critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous]

I know a teacher at a well known private in DC who confided she would never send her kids to the private she teaches at because the kids are way too sheltered and coddled. It’s funny because I grew up here and the alumni I know from that school have zero grit and can’t handle any adversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Public doesn’t do nearly as good a job teaching kids that if your family is wealthy and/or connected, you can basically act with impunity at the expense of others. Public schools care about “equity” whereas private schools embrace the fact that money and power are all you really need in life.

At public, everyone can act with impunity! We appreciate the fairness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Writing
Critical thinking
Creativity
Organization and study skills
In depth math

Have been at a highly ranked public from 1-6th and am appalled by the shallowness of the curriculum. I feel terrible for what my kid has missed.

Weird. My kid in public immersion was doing algebra in a foreign language in 6th grade. You must have sent your kids to a poor public school, and that's on you.

What books do you use for that?

But anyway, that's impossible, because there is no immersion at the Wealthy Potomac Schools that allow Algebra in 6th. But maybe you are in DC or VA?

Also, parents don't "send" their kids to a poor public school, the county provides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. People get so worked up over defending their choices.

It’s unfair for parents whose kids have only gone to public schools as they really have nothing to compare to. I guess it’s similar for those only attending private, but that is less common.

My feeling having had multiple experiences at public and private (independent privates) is that private really is better on so many levels.

If your definition of ‘better’ is that your child is taking AP multivariable calculus in 10th grade (a skill that AI does and is really not going to be important for humans in the near future) then I guess public is the superior option.

Not sure why AI was brought into the discussion.

On that logic, literally all of school will be of no value. AI can write at a high level, perform high level math, etc.

All the jobs the vast majority of DCUM people do…legal, finance, medical, software, creative….are at risk.

Fortunately/unfortunately it will be a boon to senior level professionals by making them super productive, but will depress the demand for all the kids that need to start somewhere to learn the ropes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. People get so worked up over defending their choices.

It’s unfair for parents whose kids have only gone to public schools as they really have nothing to compare to. I guess it’s similar for those only attending private, but that is less common.

My feeling having had multiple experiences at public and private (independent privates) is that private really is better on so many levels.

If your definition of ‘better’ is that your child is taking AP multivariable calculus in 10th grade (a skill that AI does and is really not going to be important for humans in the near future) then I guess public is the superior option.

Not sure why AI was brought into the discussion.

On that logic, literally all of school will be of no value. AI can write at a high level, perform high level math, etc.

All the jobs the vast majority of DCUM people do…legal, finance, medical, software, creative….are at risk.

Fortunately/unfortunately it will be a boon to senior level professionals by making them super productive, but will depress the demand for all the kids that need to start somewhere to learn the ropes.

People need advanced-level math to be the creators and maintain the computer systems and programs. The logic makes no sense.