This is getting ridiculous

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Anonymous wrote:there are as many kids succeeding under these dynamics (discussed exhaustively on this site) as not..

don’t really post much but my DC got into a T15 as a TO WUMC female - test scores low 1300s, never would’ve applied to this school before TO

the rules of the game have changed and people with high stat kids who are getting rejected feel screwed

exact point. Kids are getting into T15s, just maybe not YOUR kids - and that doesn’t make the process broken or impossible

DCUM hates test optional. High test scores are a variable that can be controlled when you have unlimited resources to bolster scores

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

So what. It’s still not a travesty.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like maybe part of this is admissions committees don’t understand some of the CS technology so can’t evaluate the applications well? I know my kid included maybe too many technical terms in describing their achievements.

That could be part of it. It could also be school selection. My son and a couple of his buddies were certain that they will get into t10s. They are all having a truly humbling experience. As somebody on Reddit put it - CS can make your safeties look like reach schools.

Yes, certainly admissions workers would not have understood the technical terms. White males and Asians really need to be strong in a sport nowadays otherwise they get passed over for lower stats of other ethnicities.

When multiple schools return the same decision, you have to wonder if that t was a strong as the OP is saying it was. Or did they aim too high, not realizing that thousands of top students are competing for a few hundred spots?

Ummm, no, it's that everyone is "highly qualified" so unless you are "hooked" it's a lottery. When did you last win the lottery?

The more appropriate question is do you whine like a spoiled child when you don’t win the lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:there are as many kids succeeding under these dynamics (discussed exhaustively on this site) as not..

don’t really post much but my DC got into a T15 as a TO WUMC female - test scores low 1300s, never would’ve applied to this school before TO

the rules of the game have changed and people with high stat kids who are getting rejected feel screwed

exact point. Kids are getting into T15s, just maybe not YOUR kids - and that doesn’t make the process broken or impossible

DCUM hates test optional. High test scores are a variable that can be controlled when you have unlimited resources to bolster scores

So is getting help with your essays and applications, tutoring to improv GPA, access to ECs, on and on. SAT / ACT one of the easier things to get free help with.

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Anonymous wrote:Mainly just a venting post so bear with me but this is getting pretty ridiculous with the waitlists after the deferrals.. seems like so many of our kids are getting strung along. I, like many, have a kid hoping to major in CS. CS is his innate gift and he is truly gifted at it but these schools don’t seem to see that. He is accepted somewhere (definitely not top 50) so he is probably heading there but what on Earth is going on with all these deferrals and waitlists??? Who is getting in to these places?? He is a white male, 1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning, dedicated volunteer hours, write ups in magazines, articles in Wired… What else to they want?

I hope this is a troll post. Otherwise it is a great travesty.

This may be a lot of things, most likely a troll post but some rando UMC kid having to go a non top 50 college is anything but a travesty.

Did you look at that kids stats? Here is a snippet - "1580 SAT, UMC, straight A, multiple AP, highest rigor, multiple award winning"

Those are not easy to get. It takes a lot of commitment and hardwork. I know because I have seen my son go through it for similar stats.

No kidding and I’m sure the kids who were actually admitted would say the same about their own paths. Perhaps it’s harder to work a part time job, take several buses to school, take care of feeding and transporting siblings and relatives, and maintain a high gpa and play a competitor sport the list goes on. Is it harder to raise two kids, five, seven, ten? I don’t know and neither do you but I am more inclined to be believe that whoever is fortunate enough to be admitted to there schools earned the right to be there. And Varsity Blues has taught us that too many did not. Teach your kids that wherever they end up they will be great and stop telling them they are more deserving than anyone else when you don’t know their story. This why people love athletics because you learn that a Tom Brady can become a Tom Brady even when they weren’t a high draft pick. You learn a team can win all year and get taken out by a lower seeded team in the championships, it’s called life.

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Not the OP but I completely relate to this post. I think it’s completely fine to come here to vent. That’s not whining to me. And it helps to know we are not alone.

Unfortunately there seem to be a segment of people on here that just want to be mean and start arguments. No one said their kids deserve spots more and anyone else. I think we can all agree that the college application process is pretty broken.

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I don’t know why some on this post keep trying to make this a racial issue, the vast majority of hooks benefit white people (rural, low income, athletic recruits, geographical diversity, legacies). That doesn’t make it any less unfair to the unhooked kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Not the OP but I completely relate to this post. I think it’s completely fine to come here to vent. That’s not whining to me. And it helps to know we are not alone.

Unfortunately there seem to be a segment of people on here that just want to be mean and start arguments. No one said their kids deserve spots more and anyone else. I think we can all agree that the college application process is pretty broken.

When you think it’s broken only because some white UMC kid doesn’t get into a school that fits their parents’ ego, that’s deserving of scorn.

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Anonymous wrote:Not the OP but I completely relate to this post. I think it’s completely fine to come here to vent. That’s not whining to me. And it helps to know we are not alone.

Unfortunately there seem to be a segment of people on here that just want to be mean and start arguments. No one said their kids deserve spots more and anyone else. I think we can all agree that the college application process is pretty broken.

It’s broken because there are a record number of applicants and your kid got rejected? Do you approach the rest of your life like this? I didn’t get the job so that proves the hiring process is broken because I am absolutely the most qualified candidate. If they didn’t hire me then everything is unfair.

The level of entitlement on here is stunning.

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Anonymous wrote:Not the OP but I completely relate to this post. I think it’s completely fine to come here to vent. That’s not whining to me. And it helps to know we are not alone.

Unfortunately there seem to be a segment of people on here that just want to be mean and start arguments. No one said their kids deserve spots more and anyone else. I think we can all agree that the college application process is pretty broken.

When you think it’s broken only because some white UMC kid doesn’t get into a school that fits their parents’ ego, that’s deserving of scorn.

I love the assumptions. No I think it’s broken because kids are having to apply to so many schools and the process is so time consuming and stressful. Also because there’s the pressure to ED with financial unknowns. And because there are still loopholes for sports and high donors. Do you assume the worst of everyone in real life too?

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Anonymous wrote:Not the OP but I completely relate to this post. I think it’s completely fine to come here to vent. That’s not whining to me. And it helps to know we are not alone.

Unfortunately there seem to be a segment of people on here that just want to be mean and start arguments. No one said their kids deserve spots more and anyone else. I think we can all agree that the college application process is pretty broken.

When you think it’s broken only because some white UMC kid doesn’t get into a school that fits their parents’ ego, that’s deserving of scorn.

I love the assumptions. No I think it’s broken because kids are having to apply to so many schools and the process is so time consuming and stressful. Also because there’s the pressure to ED with financial unknowns. And because there are still loopholes for sports and high donors. Do you assume the worst of everyone in real life too?

So you didn’t clarify that on a thread about a so-called genius white kid who didn’t get into his top school choice and everybody is blaming diversity? Um ok sure.

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Anonymous wrote:The problems with this years class are manifold. It's a huge group of students and after a 2/3 year break the internationals are also once again applying en masse. Grade inflation has become the norm. A 4.0 isn't what it used to be. Test Optional means that all those kids that used to score 1200-1400 and therefore wouldn't have bothered applying to T20s are now applying to T20s. For families that live in blue states, Covid restrictions were devastating to this generation of teenagers, limiting opportunities and access to the kinds of experiences and internships that used to be the norm for smart, ambitious kids. Yes, colleges have given some priority to URMs and first generation kids, but as always the real advantages continue to go to the wealthy, legacy Biffs and Buffys of the world. The end result is that it's really difficult for smart, suburban kids to distinguish themselves. On the upside, I think this generation of state flagship kids - particularly those in the honors programs - is going to be outstanding. If I were a hiring manager, that's where I'd recruit.

Interesting post.

Agree with the final two sentences of the above post.

+1 I have been wondering about international applicants in all of this, too. When we toured BU last fall, they said that 25% of enrollment was international. I’m not sure what kind of yield they have on those students, so if anyone has insight onto what that means in terms of the percentage of acceptances that go to international applicants, please share.

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Anonymous wrote:White UMC is the deal breaker. Read the news. That’s not what’s in right now.

Absolutely. White UMC is being discriminated against.

Imagine if white UMC actually had to face real discrimination. They’d all crawl up in a ball sobbing uncontrollably. You people are so weak.

There is such ignorance about the reality for white males. People who say things like the above need to look at some actual stats on this. Really, your point of view is misinformed and pretty much devoid of empathy. You don't think a white skinned person can know what it means to suffer? Your post is the essence of racism: an inability to see someone of another race as capable of suffering as much as you do.

And let's put this within the context of college admissions: it is about 10 times easier for a URM to get into a college compared to a white kid with the same stats

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Anonymous wrote:The problems with this years class are manifold. It's a huge group of students and after a 2/3 year break the internationals are also once again applying en masse. Grade inflation has become the norm. A 4.0 isn't what it used to be. Test Optional means that all those kids that used to score 1200-1400 and therefore wouldn't have bothered applying to T20s are now applying to T20s. For families that live in blue states, Covid restrictions were devastating to this generation of teenagers, limiting opportunities and access to the kinds of experiences and internships that used to be the norm for smart, ambitious kids. Yes, colleges have given some priority to URMs and first generation kids, but as always the real advantages continue to go to the wealthy, legacy Biffs and Buffys of the world. The end result is that it's really difficult for smart, suburban kids to distinguish themselves. On the upside, I think this generation of state flagship kids - particularly those in the honors programs - is going to be outstanding. If I were a hiring manager, that's where I'd recruit.

Interesting post.

Agree with the final two sentences of the above post.

+1 I have been wondering about international applicants in all of this, too. When we toured BU last fall, they said that 25% of enrollment was international. I’m not sure what kind of yield they have on those students, so if anyone has insight onto what that means in terms of the percentage of acceptances that go to international applicants, please share.

I agree, many selective schools are accepting more than 20 percent international. Given the amount of federal funding colleges get, I think that number shoukd be much lower, maybe 5 percent.

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Anonymous wrote:White UMC is the deal breaker. Read the news. That’s not what’s in right now.

Absolutely. White UMC is being discriminated against.

Imagine if white UMC actually had to face real discrimination. They’d all crawl up in a ball sobbing uncontrollably. You people are so weak.

There is such ignorance about the reality for white males. People who say things like the above need to look at some actual stats on this. Really, your point of view is misinformed and pretty much devoid of empathy. You don't think a white skinned person can know what it means to suffer? Your post is the essence of racism: an inability to see someone of another race as capable of suffering as much as you do.

And let's put this within the context of college admissions: it is about 10 times easier for a URM to get into a college compared to a white kid with the same stats

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