Do safety schools exist anymore?

Anonymous
Imagine a town with a restaurant, the best restaurant. Many citizens will only go to the best restaurant. They put up with the long lines, the prices, and the fact that the menu is not as good as it used to be. They still line up to eat there.

Some people start going to the new restaurant. It is tasty and comfortable and they bring their friends and many of them like it too. A few people don't like it and they go back to the best restaurant.

The people from the best restaurant start heckling the people who eat at the new restaurant because it's not the "best restaurant." People who have never eaten in a restaurant like to heckle both restaurants.

There is no rule that I have to eat at the best restaurant, I don't even like what it serves.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.



My kid didn’t get in. All As and nice kid. Waitlisted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.



My kid didn’t get in. All As and nice kid. Waitlisted.

This should not be a shock to anyone. It’s all about supply and demand. There are only a certain amount of spots. Your child was waitlisted not rejected. That means he’d be a fit if there was the space. This particular school is located in the middle of Potomac. There’s a lot of wealth there and people send their children to private schools. So the demand is high from those who want a private school that’s nearby.

Also, I would ignore the unreasonable comments on here. The comments are NOT normal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:GP is a safety school.



Just stop.
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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.


Georgetown Prep is not a safety. I know kids who chose it over STA and I know kids who got into STA but were rejected from Prep. Prep is a highly desirable school with an acceptance rate below 20%. Nice try though, the haters are always going to hate. It’s so predictable. 🙄



Seriously, the only kids I know that have accepted there are dyslexic, dysgraphic, Add inattentive, and/or add. I am so happy that this place is welcoming to them and thier needs.

NP. Based on the handful of Prep students I know, I thought it was a safety school as well. Does Prep offer a Special Ed. program? One kid I know appears to be on the spectrum.


Oh Boy! It’s clear someone’s son got rejected and they are taking out their anger on this forum and making up lies about Prep. A better use of your time might be therapy because ignorant comments such as the above just make you look like a fool.


Why are you so defensive? I have two daughters so I certainly don’t have an ax to grind with Prep. The rising 9th grader I know who was recently admitted to Prep seems to be on the autism spectrum (the high-functioning side). My question is sincere. Does Prep have a program like SJC’s Benilde program for students with learning differences?


Just stop. It's so obvious your posts are not sincere.


My question triggers you for some reason…please move along.

Can some else respond? Does Prep admit students with documented learning differences? Is there a special program?


Check out /research the Georgetown Prep Special Needs Program for Children per the Georgetown Prep School Act of 1774.



In all seriousness, the only kids I know that accepted there are dyslexic, dysgraphic, Add inattentive, and/or adhd. I am truly happy that there is a school welcoming them and their needs.



DP. You’re a horrible person. What is wrong with you? Why are you pretending to care and yet put down a school. Why are you assuming that someone with learning issues are less than kids who don’t? Also what has GP done to you?
Anonymous
Not admit their child, it's clear that's what GP did - and thank goodness for that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.


I agree, a solid C student will not get into St. Andrew's.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.


I agree, a solid C student will not get into St. Andrew's.




Well, then where do they go?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.


I agree, a solid C student will not get into St. Andrew's.




Well, then where do they go?

It’s hard out there for a C student.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.


I agree, a solid C student will not get into St. Andrew's.




Well, then where do they go?

O’Connell
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.



My kid didn’t get in. All As and nice kid. Waitlisted.




This is not a real post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown Prep
Holy Cross
SJC
Sandy Spring
Oneness
SAES
To name a few.

Not SAES.




SAES is definitely a safety school unless you child is a poor student.


Kids with b and c grades can definitely get in. Safety, don't know....they are looking for a specific person. Academics are not necessarily what they are looking for so it's hard to get it unless you fit the need.


SAES is a *former* safety school, so there is partial accuracy. SAES has changed, just like the broader DMV private school landscape. The safety school label for St. Andrew's is completely antiquated. They, like most schools, are receiving progressively high apps and is an authentically competitive school to gain admissions. The difference is that SAES welcomes a more academically diverse student body than others. They will consider students with a range of abilities; straight A students as well as students with B and C grades can be accepted but it is a package for consideration. The school does not seek to design an academically homogenous student body (thankfully!). But that does not mean all straight A students will be accepted, nor does it mean that all students with a B or C will be accepted. There are far more quality applicants than spaces available at SAES in recent years, and that proves increasingly true year after year. There will be rejections and sizeable waitlists, no matter the type of student applicant. It is not a safety school....at all. We must accept that these labels are not static - it can change over time. It's like telling prospective homebuyers they'll need only $500k for a new construction SFH in Silver Spring just because that's what you paid in 2008.

The reality changes over time, and the reality at SAES most certainly has. Parents and students are facing that reality, especially post-pandemic, and should not falsely feel badly about an unsuccessful application due to a false narrative about the 'ease' of getting into SAES. That is simply not true! It is a wonderful, welcoming school but it is not a safety school.



It's a safety school.


Just an important reminder of what adults should already know: Denial and/or repetition of lies can never transform the actual truth. You can repeat false info as often as you're motivated to do so, but the facts will remain unchanged. The fact is applicants cannot be certain of admission to St. Andrew's.


I agree, a solid C student will not get into St. Andrew's.




Well, then where do they go?

O’Connell



Bishop O'Connell High School in Arlington ?
Anonymous
I actually think the restaurant analogy is great. There are a lot of really great restaurants out there, but since we all don't like the same food - some people have top favorites that are completely different than others. There are some that are just universally famous and have rave reviews, but there are always a few people who will argue that McDonalds is better because it's quicker or they appreciate the chains because they are cheaper and the food options are more predictable. Or maybe you just like Indian food and the famous one that many people rave about is a steak joint.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I actually think the restaurant analogy is great. There are a lot of really great restaurants out there, but since we all don't like the same food - some people have top favorites that are completely different than others. There are some that are just universally famous and have rave reviews, but there are always a few people who will argue that McDonalds is better because it's quicker or they appreciate the chains because they are cheaper and the food options are more predictable. Or maybe you just like Indian food and the famous one that many people rave about is a steak joint.

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