American Select Tryouts - What to expect?

[Anonymous]

To the PP I don’t think the other poster suggested AS was clearing $2M. Revenue is revenue. Profit is profit. Either way the event generates a lot of money and others make a lot off this single event.

I agree everyone does this event for their own reasons. Having had my DD participate in these events it is a little troubling to have the one poster continually stress the “last chance” angle of the event. It comes across as very salesy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with this. I know '28s is too early to tell, but 6-7 of the top players across local clubs did not try out for AS. That said, a good group of Pride and Stars made it.

It was more than just 6 or 7.

With some of the top talent sitting out for this year's AS, how many show up next summer for AS? Most top DMV talent didn't even go to tryouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Individual families will do this event for their own reasons, which is the way it should be. One thing is clear though, those running this event will generate in the neighborhood of $2M for ONE weekend when you consider registration and tryout fees. Add to this apparel fees and revenue from this one event alone is $2M+.

This is a revenue generating business above anything else. Those running the event will partner with the regional clubs who can attract the largest tryout numbers. Why would a club participate - they are probably paid a kickback for each player that attends tryouts. This could be a sizable amount of money for a local club just to work a weekend tryout. And who knows if the local club gets a cut of the actual registration fee. Each local club running tryouts and selecting teams is connected to helping generate $100K for the event organizers. What percent of this is paid to the local club?

When you generate $2M for an event you can probably afford to bring in some college coaches to fill the sidelines. This above all else is why parents will pay what could amount to $625 in tryout and registration fees. The guess work is will these coaches be the ones from the schools your daughter really has on her short list of schools. Remember your DD should pick a school based on her academics and where she would be happy as a student first. Not count on a random chance some school will offer her. This is why attending camps if the schools your daughter really Wanda to attend makes a lot of sense.

Again, everyone has their own reasons for doing AS. But the bottom line is it’s a big money maker with not a lot of ROI for many players.

I think this is a pretty accurate assessment. No doubt it generates $$$. Personally, I like the idea of having my daughter combining forces with players in her area and playing other areas to see how her team stacks up. For me, it's worth the money to spend a few days at the beach and have her play lacrosse with some new and good players. If you're looking at ROI, probably doesn't make sense unless "maybe" you're in that recruiting window. Honestly, if you look at girls lacrosse as a whole from a ROI/$$$ perspective, no one should even play. You probably spend 100K+ on sticks, camps, travel teams, gas etc. to "maybe" get a 10% ride to hopefully a decent school? If the kid enjoys playing and wants to work at it, I'm fine paying for her to develop, play on travel and select teams, etc. It is a great sport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Individual families will do this event for their own reasons, which is the way it should be. One thing is clear though, those running this event will generate in the neighborhood of $2M for ONE weekend when you consider registration and tryout fees. Add to this apparel fees and revenue from this one event alone is $2M+.

This is a revenue generating business above anything else. Those running the event will partner with the regional clubs who can attract the largest tryout numbers. Why would a club participate - they are probably paid a kickback for each player that attends tryouts. This could be a sizable amount of money for a local club just to work a weekend tryout. And who knows if the local club gets a cut of the actual registration fee. Each local club running tryouts and selecting teams is connected to helping generate $100K for the event organizers. What percent of this is paid to the local club?

When you generate $2M for an event you can probably afford to bring in some college coaches to fill the sidelines. This above all else is why parents will pay what could amount to $625 in tryout and registration fees. The guess work is will these coaches be the ones from the schools your daughter really has on her short list of schools. Remember your DD should pick a school based on her academics and where she would be happy as a student first. Not count on a random chance some school will offer her. This is why attending camps if the schools your daughter really Wanda to attend makes a lot of sense.

Again, everyone has their own reasons for doing AS. But the bottom line is it’s a big money maker with not a lot of ROI for many players.

When you go through the recruiting process, there are a limited number of weeks and you need to prioritize the events you do and often there are conflicts you have to address.

There weren’t any conflicting camps during the same weekend when we did AS during our DD’s recruiting season. Which makes sense because all of the top coaches were at the AS event.

Individual camps are important to do - but do them well before AS if your kid hopes to generate interest on Sept 1.

As other have said, AS is the last event before the dead period. Our daughter received great exposure at this event. Multiple schools from her wish list were on the sideline.

Had we not previously done the individual camps, AS likely wouldn't have made much a difference. View AS as a final opportunity to showcase her talents after your DD has done the requisite work to get in front of schools where they want to be seen. We have learned since that AS was more of a validating exercise for coaches who wanted to get a last look at her. We are glad we did it, as our DD received significant interest on Sept 1.

The same money argument can be made for any of the tournaments the players participate in each summer. Event organizers are running businesses, after all. But the financials the PP cites don’t take into account what must be significant fees required to put on such an event. Field costs, refs, coaches, insurance, etc. The suggestion organizers clear $2M is rather disingenuous.

It was a great experience for us and worth the money given that it was the last chance for our DD to leave those coaches with a final impression before Sept 1.

This was our experience too. It was a great way to get a final look from coaches interested in our daughter before the deadline. We were happy we did it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the PP I don’t think the other poster suggested AS was clearing $2M. Revenue is revenue. Profit is profit. Either way the event generates a lot of money and others make a lot off this single event.

I agree everyone does this event for their own reasons. Having had my DD participate in these events it is a little troubling to have the one poster continually stress the “last chance” angle of the event. It comes across as very salesy.

I see … When you try to dissuade people from attending AS for your own personal or financial reasons, having never attended the event yourself, your motivation is pure.

When I give a personal account of our experience, and explain how it was helpful to my DD in her recruiting process, and that I have no connection whatsoever to the event, it’s somehow a sales job.

Got it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with this. I know '28s is too early to tell, but 6-7 of the top players across local clubs did not try out for AS. That said, a good group of Pride and Stars made it.

It was more than just 6 or 7.

With some of the top talent sitting out for this year's AS, how many show up next summer for AS? Most top DMV talent didn't even go to tryouts.

Let me guess…your DD is in this “top talent” group and didn’t go? 🙄

Was all of the top talent there? No. But a lot of of the top talent actually WAS there despite your attempts to convince everyone otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the PP I don’t think the other poster suggested AS was clearing $2M. Revenue is revenue. Profit is profit. Either way the event generates a lot of money and others make a lot off this single event.

I agree everyone does this event for their own reasons. Having had my DD participate in these events it is a little troubling to have the one poster continually stress the “last chance” angle of the event. It comes across as very salesy.

I see … When you try to dissuade people from attending AS for your own personal or financial reasons, having never attended the event yourself, your motivation is pure.

When I give a personal account of our experience, and explain how it was helpful to my DD in her recruiting process, and that I have no connection whatsoever to the event, it’s somehow a sales job.

Got it

Glad you finally get it. Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your thing. The poster stated her DD did participate in the event and that everyone has their reason for choosing to do so. This person simply noted the salesy nature of your post. Why are you so bent on selling AS to people? Do you have snake oil also?

I thought another poster did a nice job laying out the financial facts of the event. There is not right or wrong answer of participation based on these numbers. Do you have facts to support your position that AS is so critical to recruitment? Is there anything to suggest the “last chance” you reference pays dividends for most players? Your position is too pushy. Attacking others who have participated in the event by saying they haven’t doesn’t help either. We are interested in everyone’s experience.

You’ve noted your position, so move on. We don’t need any more messages about your DD needing a last chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the PP I don’t think the other poster suggested AS was clearing $2M. Revenue is revenue. Profit is profit. Either way the event generates a lot of money and others make a lot off this single event.

I agree everyone does this event for their own reasons. Having had my DD participate in these events it is a little troubling to have the one poster continually stress the “last chance” angle of the event. It comes across as very salesy.

I see … When you try to dissuade people from attending AS for your own personal or financial reasons, having never attended the event yourself, your motivation is pure.

When I give a personal account of our experience, and explain how it was helpful to my DD in her recruiting process, and that I have no connection whatsoever to the event, it’s somehow a sales job.

Got it

Glad you finally get it. Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your thing. The poster stated her DD did participate in the event and that everyone has their reason for choosing to do so. This person simply noted the salesy nature of your post. Why are you so bent on selling AS to people? Do you have snake oil also?

I thought another poster did a nice job laying out the financial facts of the event. There is not right or wrong answer of participation based on these numbers. Do you have facts to support your position that AS is so critical to recruitment? Is there anything to suggest the “last chance” you reference pays dividends for most players? Your position is too pushy. Attacking others who have participated in the event by saying they haven’t doesn’t help either. We are interested in everyone’s experience.

You’ve noted your position, so move on. We don’t need any more messages about your DD needing a last chance.

Very funny to see you trying to represent yourself as two different people here. Not lost on any of us.

Nor is it lost on anyone that you have a personal or professional reason for spending so much time trying to tell people that AS is a waste of time.

People have said here that the event has helped them. You can’t accept this for some bizarre (or hidden motive) reason, which is why you look small to everyone here. We all know you have some sort of axe to grind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with this. I know '28s is too early to tell, but 6-7 of the top players across local clubs did not try out for AS. That said, a good group of Pride and Stars made it.

It was more than just 6 or 7.

With some of the top talent sitting out for this year's AS, how many show up next summer for AS? Most top DMV talent didn't even go to tryouts.

Let me guess…your DD is in this “top talent” group and didn’t go? 🙄

Was all of the top talent there? No. But a lot of of the top talent actually WAS there despite your attempts to convince everyone otherwise.

A Real Sherlock holmes here. Charlotte North 2.0 here and yes didn't go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the PP I don’t think the other poster suggested AS was clearing $2M. Revenue is revenue. Profit is profit. Either way the event generates a lot of money and others make a lot off this single event.

I agree everyone does this event for their own reasons. Having had my DD participate in these events it is a little troubling to have the one poster continually stress the “last chance” angle of the event. It comes across as very salesy.

I see … When you try to dissuade people from attending AS for your own personal or financial reasons, having never attended the event yourself, your motivation is pure.

When I give a personal account of our experience, and explain how it was helpful to my DD in her recruiting process, and that I have no connection whatsoever to the event, it’s somehow a sales job.

Got it

Glad you finally get it. Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your thing. The poster stated her DD did participate in the event and that everyone has their reason for choosing to do so. This person simply noted the salesy nature of your post. Why are you so bent on selling AS to people? Do you have snake oil also?

I thought another poster did a nice job laying out the financial facts of the event. There is not right or wrong answer of participation based on these numbers. Do you have facts to support your position that AS is so critical to recruitment? Is there anything to suggest the “last chance” you reference pays dividends for most players? Your position is too pushy. Attacking others who have participated in the event by saying they haven’t doesn’t help either. We are interested in everyone’s experience.

You’ve noted your position, so move on. We don’t need any more messages about your DD needing a last chance.

Congratulations to all the players who tried out and made the AS teams.

Your hard work earned you a spot on those teams.

My DD had a great experience at AS playing with some of the best lax players in the area.

If it’s your recruiting year, the nation’s best coaches will all be represented there.

Most importantly: HAVE FUN!!

Best of luck to you all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the PP I don’t think the other poster suggested AS was clearing $2M. Revenue is revenue. Profit is profit. Either way the event generates a lot of money and others make a lot off this single event.

I agree everyone does this event for their own reasons. Having had my DD participate in these events it is a little troubling to have the one poster continually stress the “last chance” angle of the event. It comes across as very salesy.

I see … When you try to dissuade people from attending AS for your own personal or financial reasons, having never attended the event yourself, your motivation is pure.

When I give a personal account of our experience, and explain how it was helpful to my DD in her recruiting process, and that I have no connection whatsoever to the event, it’s somehow a sales job.

Got it

Glad you finally get it. Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your thing. The poster stated her DD did participate in the event and that everyone has their reason for choosing to do so. This person simply noted the salesy nature of your post. Why are you so bent on selling AS to people? Do you have snake oil also?

I thought another poster did a nice job laying out the financial facts of the event. There is not right or wrong answer of participation based on these numbers. Do you have facts to support your position that AS is so critical to recruitment? Is there anything to suggest the “last chance” you reference pays dividends for most players? Your position is too pushy. Attacking others who have participated in the event by saying they haven’t doesn’t help either. We are interested in everyone’s experience.

You’ve noted your position, so move on. We don’t need any more messages about your DD needing a last chance.

Congratulations to all the players who tried out and made the AS teams.

Your hard work earned you a spot on those teams.

My DD had a great experience at AS playing with some of the best lax players in the area.

If it’s your recruiting year, the nation’s best coaches will all be represented there.

Most importantly: HAVE FUN!!

Best of luck to you all.

Does anyone know if or when the AS rosters
will be posted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the PP I don’t think the other poster suggested AS was clearing $2M. Revenue is revenue. Profit is profit. Either way the event generates a lot of money and others make a lot off this single event.

I agree everyone does this event for their own reasons. Having had my DD participate in these events it is a little troubling to have the one poster continually stress the “last chance” angle of the event. It comes across as very salesy.

I see … When you try to dissuade people from attending AS for your own personal or financial reasons, having never attended the event yourself, your motivation is pure.

When I give a personal account of our experience, and explain how it was helpful to my DD in her recruiting process, and that I have no connection whatsoever to the event, it’s somehow a sales job.

Got it

Glad you finally get it. Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your thing. The poster stated her DD did participate in the event and that everyone has their reason for choosing to do so. This person simply noted the salesy nature of your post. Why are you so bent on selling AS to people? Do you have snake oil also?

I thought another poster did a nice job laying out the financial facts of the event. There is not right or wrong answer of participation based on these numbers. Do you have facts to support your position that AS is so critical to recruitment? Is there anything to suggest the “last chance” you reference pays dividends for most players? Your position is too pushy. Attacking others who have participated in the event by saying they haven’t doesn’t help either. We are interested in everyone’s experience.

You’ve noted your position, so move on. We don’t need any more messages about your DD needing a last chance.

Congratulations to all the players who tried out and made the AS teams.

Your hard work earned you a spot on those teams.

My DD had a great experience at AS playing with some of the best lax players in the area.

If it’s your recruiting year, the nation’s best coaches will all be represented there.

Most importantly: HAVE FUN!!

Best of luck to you all.

Does anyone know if or when the AS rosters
will be posted?

Last year it wasn't until mid-June after all regions have had tryouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with this. I know '28s is too early to tell, but 6-7 of the top players across local clubs did not try out for AS. That said, a good group of Pride and Stars made it.

It was more than just 6 or 7.

With some of the top talent sitting out for this year's AS, how many show up next summer for AS? Most top DMV talent didn't even go to tryouts.

Ok Sure!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with this. I know '28s is too early to tell, but 6-7 of the top players across local clubs did not try out for AS. That said, a good group of Pride and Stars made it.

It was more than just 6 or 7.

With some of the top talent sitting out for this year's AS, how many show up next summer for AS? Most top DMV talent didn't even go to tryouts.

Not true. We know one of these two things (possibly both) to be true about you:

Your daughter didn’t tryout / make AS and you’re bitter about it.

And / Or:

You are affiliated with a Capital competitor and think every day about how you can throw anonymous spitballs at a club that routinely eats your lunch.

Either way

Breathe.

Relax.

Have a drink. Have two

Call a friend (if you have any).

Do something more productive with your time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with this. I know '28s is too early to tell, but 6-7 of the top players across local clubs did not try out for AS. That said, a good group of Pride and Stars made it.

It was more than just 6 or 7.

With some of the top talent sitting out for this year's AS, how many show up next summer for AS? Most top DMV talent didn't even go to tryouts.

Not true. We know one of these two things (possibly both) to be true about you:

Your daughter didn’t tryout / make AS and you’re bitter about it.

And / Or:

You are affiliated with a Capital competitor and think every day about how you can throw anonymous spitballs at a club that routinely eats your lunch.

Either way

Breathe.

Relax.

Have a drink. Have two

Call a friend (if you have any).

Do something more productive with your time.

Well said. And hilarious.