Is Harvard over-rated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

DP and Double Harvard grad here. No, it’s true. Legacies or minorities.everyone knows this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

Actually I didn't even apply there, going instead to an arguably same/ better school in the West Coast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

It signals that you couldn't hack it at MIT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

DP and Double Harvard grad here. No, it’s true. Legacies or minorities.everyone knows this

Yup

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

Actually I didn't even apply there, going instead to an arguably same/ better school in the West Coast.

Why is the west coast any different? You have more wannabe-scholar meatheads there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

Actually I didn't even apply there, going instead to an arguably same/ better school in the West Coast.

Why is the west coast any different? You have more wannabe-scholar meatheads there.

True, but CA voted against racial discrimination decades ago. It has made a difference in protecting merit and academics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

Actually I didn't even apply there, going instead to an arguably same/ better school in the West Coast.

Why is the west coast any different? You have more wannabe-scholar meatheads there.

True, but CA voted against racial discrimination decades ago. It has made a difference in protecting merit and academics.

Oh, PP is talking public unis, not private. There's no public that rivals ivies at the undergraduate level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

I think of the 2022-2023 Editor in Chief of Harvard’s newspaper. She is from an extremely wealthy, powerful family in South America. But she’s the first Latina to be editor in chief!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

I think of the 2022-2023 Editor in Chief of Harvard’s newspaper. She is from an extremely wealthy, powerful family in South America. But she’s the first Latina to be editor in chief!

Meh, Columbia just named an Egyptian-American woman as its president. We aren't talking a student newspaper here. She maybe the first African-American to head a world-class institution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Ah, the embittered tears of the rejected. Sweet, sweet nectar.

Nice coping mechanism

Actually I didn't even apply there, going instead to an arguably same/ better school in the West Coast.

Yeah sure. Did your boyfriend from Canada join you there too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you have a Harvard degree it signals you are smart and/or talented no matter what field you major in. Among schools that signal graduates are smart and/or talented, a Harvard degree signals you are at or near the top of the pack. If you have a degree from almost all other other top schools, it signals you are smart and/or talented, but not quite to the extent to make it to Harvard.

That's the old Harvard.

In the new Harvard it signals you're wealthy or connected or the token minority.

Most of the students I know are in this cohort. And none of them are setting the world on fire if I'm being 100% honest.

[Anonymous]

No, it's an amazing school.

And it's funny that people think it's become less meritocratic--it's quite the opposite (same as most other elite schools). Used to be (1950s-60s and earlier) if you were a reasonably well-off, high achieving student you could assume you could get in. Add in legacy and you were golden. There just wasn't that much competition. Opening it up to diversity increased the pool and increased the competition. Just look at accomplishments over time and the acceptance rate. (Same story at many elite institutions). This has been a steady rise to this point.