Lee Montessori open slots for 1st and 2nd

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

What if you see 4-5 children doing advanced math and other children doing almost no math at all? Without a way to measure what kids are learning (if you have to just disregard PARCC because you don’t think it’s a good measure), how do you know how the school does on this point on average. Most schools have outlier kids who are working above grade level. But as a prospective parent, you might want to know how the school does with kids who are average or below average. Even if your child is advanced in some areas, most kids have areas where they struggle.

You are asking parents to take it on faith that their child will get the education they need, based purely on belief in Montessori methods. If that’s the expectation, it’s unsurprising that the school loses many families after ECE because even among people who like Montessori, it is hard to just assume it will all work out for your child specifically. My guess is that these fears were compounded this year by several well-liked teachers leaving the school. It leaves a lot of unknowns.

I’m not a fan of PARCC but I’m at a loss for what to do with a school that doesn’t believe in any form of standardized assessment. High SES families might do okay there but this is sketchy for MC and poor kids who are not guaranteed the same level of resources and support in the future. And I’m not sure that public funds should be going to a school that doesn’t serve low-Income kids well and doesn’t believe they need to be assessed on the same metrics as other public schools.

The beauty of Montessori is that every kid has an individualized education plan. They meet the kids where they are at. Some kids will excel in some areas and with limits (they can’t do math 100 percent of the time if they want for example) they can go wherever they are ready. Other kids will need extra help and they get that too. If you leave before the three year cycle iis up you don’t see the full rewards.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

Oh please. "Depth of knowledge" but still scoring a ONE on the PARCC? Come on. Even allowing for lack of computer skills and unfamiliarity with the style of math, people with even a little bit of knowledge should be able to get a 2.

+100. “Working on” algebra and long division doesn’t mean these kids have a solid grasp on the fundamentals. Are they getting correct answers? Do they have a deep understanding of the concepts? Otherwise, it’s just optics, which appears to thrill parents of younger students. But if your child is truly struggling with these concepts, you see beyond this smoke and mirrors.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

What if you see 4-5 children doing advanced math and other children doing almost no math at all? Without a way to measure what kids are learning (if you have to just disregard PARCC because you don’t think it’s a good measure), how do you know how the school does on this point on average. Most schools have outlier kids who are working above grade level. But as a prospective parent, you might want to know how the school does with kids who are average or below average. Even if your child is advanced in some areas, most kids have areas where they struggle.

You are asking parents to take it on faith that their child will get the education they need, based purely on belief in Montessori methods. If that’s the expectation, it’s unsurprising that the school loses many families after ECE because even among people who like Montessori, it is hard to just assume it will all work out for your child specifically. My guess is that these fears were compounded this year by several well-liked teachers leaving the school. It leaves a lot of unknowns.

I’m not a fan of PARCC but I’m at a loss for what to do with a school that doesn’t believe in any form of standardized assessment. High SES families might do okay there but this is sketchy for MC and poor kids who are not guaranteed the same level of resources and support in the future. And I’m not sure that public funds should be going to a school that doesn’t serve low-Income kids well and doesn’t believe they need to be assessed on the same metrics as other public schools.

The beauty of Montessori is that every kid has an individualized education plan. They meet the kids where they are at. Some kids will excel in some areas and with limits (they can’t do math 100 percent of the time if they want for example) they can go wherever they are ready. Other kids will need extra help and they get that too. If you leave before the three year cycle iis up you don’t see the full rewards.

Yes let's definitely wait three years and only then find out how far behind the kids are.

We're not allowed to visit classrooms. So what else is there that could make anyone believe that the majority of Lee students are on grade level?

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

What if you see 4-5 children doing advanced math and other children doing almost no math at all? Without a way to measure what kids are learning (if you have to just disregard PARCC because you don’t think it’s a good measure), how do you know how the school does on this point on average. Most schools have outlier kids who are working above grade level. But as a prospective parent, you might want to know how the school does with kids who are average or below average. Even if your child is advanced in some areas, most kids have areas where they struggle.

You are asking parents to take it on faith that their child will get the education they need, based purely on belief in Montessori methods. If that’s the expectation, it’s unsurprising that the school loses many families after ECE because even among people who like Montessori, it is hard to just assume it will all work out for your child specifically. My guess is that these fears were compounded this year by several well-liked teachers leaving the school. It leaves a lot of unknowns.

I’m not a fan of PARCC but I’m at a loss for what to do with a school that doesn’t believe in any form of standardized assessment. High SES families might do okay there but this is sketchy for MC and poor kids who are not guaranteed the same level of resources and support in the future. And I’m not sure that public funds should be going to a school that doesn’t serve low-Income kids well and doesn’t believe they need to be assessed on the same metrics as other public schools.

The beauty of Montessori is that every kid has an individualized education plan. They meet the kids where they are at. Some kids will excel in some areas and with limits (they can’t do math 100 percent of the time if they want for example) they can go wherever they are ready. Other kids will need extra help and they get that too. [b]If you leave before the three year cycle iis up you don’t see the full rewards.

This sounds like something Bernie Madoff said to his investors.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

We're not allowed to go in the classroom. What else ya got?

Look, you can homeschool or find a private school for Montessori woo-woo and let your own kid fall behind as much as you want. But for a publicly funded school, it's a very hard sell to see performance so low. We owe children a real education in which they learn to read and do math. Is that happening at Lee? For some kids, sure. But not for others. And the racial gap is so sad. Or is that a feature of Montessori as well?

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

What if you see 4-5 children doing advanced math and other children doing almost no math at all? Without a way to measure what kids are learning (if you have to just disregard PARCC because you don’t think it’s a good measure), how do you know how the school does on this point on average. Most schools have outlier kids who are working above grade level. But as a prospective parent, you might want to know how the school does with kids who are average or below average. Even if your child is advanced in some areas, most kids have areas where they struggle.

You are asking parents to take it on faith that their child will get the education they need, based purely on belief in Montessori methods. If that’s the expectation, it’s unsurprising that the school loses many families after ECE because even among people who like Montessori, it is hard to just assume it will all work out for your child specifically. My guess is that these fears were compounded this year by several well-liked teachers leaving the school. It leaves a lot of unknowns.

I’m not a fan of PARCC but I’m at a loss for what to do with a school that doesn’t believe in any form of standardized assessment. High SES families might do okay there but this is sketchy for MC and poor kids who are not guaranteed the same level of resources and support in the future. And I’m not sure that public funds should be going to a school that doesn’t serve low-Income kids well and doesn’t believe they need to be assessed on the same metrics as other public schools.

The beauty of Montessori is that every kid has an individualized education plan. They meet the kids where they are at. Some kids will excel in some areas and with limits (they can’t do math 100 percent of the time if they want for example) they can go wherever they are ready. Other kids will need extra help and they get that too. If you leave before the three year cycle iis up you don’t see the full rewards.

So you expect the parent of a MC or at-risk child to simply trust that at the end of the “3 year cycle” their child will be at grade level, even if you cannot afford outside supplementing or other supports? Ask yourself if this is a reasonable expectation.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

What if you see 4-5 children doing advanced math and other children doing almost no math at all? Without a way to measure what kids are learning (if you have to just disregard PARCC because you don’t think it’s a good measure), how do you know how the school does on this point on average. Most schools have outlier kids who are working above grade level. But as a prospective parent, you might want to know how the school does with kids who are average or below average. Even if your child is advanced in some areas, most kids have areas where they struggle.

You are asking parents to take it on faith that their child will get the education they need, based purely on belief in Montessori methods. If that’s the expectation, it’s unsurprising that the school loses many families after ECE because even among people who like Montessori, it is hard to just assume it will all work out for your child specifically. My guess is that these fears were compounded this year by several well-liked teachers leaving the school. It leaves a lot of unknowns.

I’m not a fan of PARCC but I’m at a loss for what to do with a school that doesn’t believe in any form of standardized assessment. High SES families might do okay there but this is sketchy for MC and poor kids who are not guaranteed the same level of resources and support in the future. And I’m not sure that public funds should be going to a school that doesn’t serve low-Income kids well and doesn’t believe they need to be assessed on the same metrics as other public schools.

The beauty of Montessori is that every kid has an individualized education plan. They meet the kids where they are at. Some kids will excel in some areas and with limits (they can’t do math 100 percent of the time if they want for example) they can go wherever they are ready. Other kids will need extra help and they get that too. [b]If you leave before the three year cycle iis up you don’t see the full rewards.

This sounds like something Bernie Madoff said to his investors.

+1, all of this is the sales pitch you get at private Montessori schools. With a wealthy, highly educated parent base it’s even persuasive because the private schools get full buy in by families and major at home support. I have done good friends whose kids are at a private montessori that seems amazing. The mom is a SAHM and the dad is a math professor. The kids do awesome but let’s get real— they’d do awesome anywhere.

To do public Montessori you need to be able to adjust the program so it works EVEN IF a family doesn’t “follow montessori philosophy at home.” Even if some kids aren’t getting lots of academic encouragement or support at home. Even if the child’s parents don’t have the time or point of reference to go in the classroom and check learning levels. You need ways to make this work for a broader audience.

I like Montessori but it’s unreasonable to expect a public school system to conform to the Montessori system. You need to be able to adapt the system to public schools and most importantly, the public school population.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

We're not allowed to go in the classroom. What else ya got?

Look, you can homeschool or find a private school for Montessori woo-woo and let your own kid fall behind as much as you want. But for a publicly funded school, it's a very hard sell to see performance so low. We owe children a real education in which they learn to read and do math. Is that happening at Lee? For some kids, sure. But not for others. And the racial gap is so sad. Or is that a feature of Montessori as well?

Why can’t you visit? I loved the bring your parents to school night. My kids were far ahead, not far behind. And by far ahead I mean years in some areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

Oh please. "Depth of knowledge" but still scoring a ONE on the PARCC? Come on. Even allowing for lack of computer skills and unfamiliarity with the style of math, people with even a little bit of knowledge should be able to get a 2.

+100. “Working on” algebra and long division doesn’t mean these kids have a solid grasp on the fundamentals. Are they getting correct answers? Do they have a deep understanding of the concepts? Otherwise, it’s just optics, which appears to thrill parents of younger students. But if your child is truly struggling with these concepts, you see beyond this smoke and mirrors.

Yes, yes, yes!!!! Montessori math is amazing. They absolutely have an understanding of the concepts way being traditional school. Every school should adopt Montessori metrics to teach math. Even what they do are 3 or 4 builds on what they do next to take them to understand advanced concepts in geometry for example. If there’s in’s thing I’m absolutely persuaded of it’s how well Montessori teaches math and gives kids a solid foundation. There is no reciting facts, it’s actually learning how the decimal system works and how numbers and shapes relate to each other, for example. Way beyond anything kids get that age elsewhere.

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Sorry for the typos. Methods not metrics and hopefully the other errors are easy to understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

We're not allowed to go in the classroom. What else ya got?

Look, you can homeschool or find a private school for Montessori woo-woo and let your own kid fall behind as much as you want. But for a publicly funded school, it's a very hard sell to see performance so low. We owe children a real education in which they learn to read and do math. Is that happening at Lee? For some kids, sure. But not for others. And the racial gap is so sad. Or is that a feature of Montessori as well?

Why can’t you visit? I loved the bring your parents to school night. My kids were far ahead, not far behind. And by far ahead I mean years in some areas.

Because people who don't have a child at the school can't just go busting in.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

Oh please. "Depth of knowledge" but still scoring a ONE on the PARCC? Come on. Even allowing for lack of computer skills and unfamiliarity with the style of math, people with even a little bit of knowledge should be able to get a 2.

+100. “Working on” algebra and long division doesn’t mean these kids have a solid grasp on the fundamentals. Are they getting correct answers? Do they have a deep understanding of the concepts? Otherwise, it’s just optics, which appears to thrill parents of younger students. But if your child is truly struggling with these concepts, you see beyond this smoke and mirrors.

Yes, yes, yes!!!! Montessori math is amazing. They absolutely have an understanding of the concepts way being traditional school. Every school should adopt Montessori metrics to teach math. Even what they do are 3 or 4 builds on what they do next to take them to understand advanced concepts in geometry for example. If there’s in’s thing I’m absolutely persuaded of it’s how well Montessori teaches math and gives kids a solid foundation. There is no reciting facts, it’s actually learning how the decimal system works and how numbers and shapes relate to each other, for example. Way beyond anything kids get that age elsewhere.

Oh please. You have no idea how non-Montessori math works if you think other kids don't also learn those things.

If the kids are really soooo advanced they should be able to order numbers 1-100 in 3rd grade FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

I have no dog in this fight but I’m having a really hard time believing anything you write.
Oh please. "Depth of knowledge" but still scoring a ONE on the PARCC? Come on. Even allowing for lack of computer skills and unfamiliarity with the style of math, people with even a little bit of knowledge should be able to get a 2.

+100. “Working on” algebra and long division doesn’t mean these kids have a solid grasp on the fundamentals. Are they getting correct answers? Do they have a deep understanding of the concepts? Otherwise, it’s just optics, which appears to thrill parents of younger students. But if your child is truly struggling with these concepts, you see beyond this smoke and mirrors.

Yes, yes, yes!!!! Montessori math is amazing. They absolutely have an understanding of the concepts way being traditional school. Every school should adopt Montessori metrics to teach math. Even what they do are 3 or 4 builds on what they do next to take them to understand advanced concepts in geometry for example. If there’s in’s thing I’m absolutely persuaded of it’s how well Montessori teaches math and gives kids a solid foundation. There is no reciting facts, it’s actually learning how the decimal system works and how numbers and shapes relate to each other, for example. Way beyond anything kids get that age elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

Oh please. "Depth of knowledge" but still scoring a ONE on the PARCC? Come on. Even allowing for lack of computer skills and unfamiliarity with the style of math, people with even a little bit of knowledge should be able to get a 2.

+100. “Working on” algebra and long division doesn’t mean these kids have a solid grasp on the fundamentals. Are they getting correct answers? Do they have a deep understanding of the concepts? Otherwise, it’s just optics, which appears to thrill parents of younger students. But if your child is truly struggling with these concepts, you see beyond this smoke and mirrors.

Yes, yes, yes!!!! Montessori math is amazing. They absolutely have an understanding of the concepts way being traditional school. Every school should adopt Montessori metrics to teach math. Even what they do are 3 or 4 builds on what they do next to take them to understand advanced concepts in geometry for example. If there’s in’s thing I’m absolutely persuaded of it’s how well Montessori teaches math and gives kids a solid foundation. There is no reciting facts, it’s actually learning how the decimal system works and how numbers and shapes relate to each other, for example. Way beyond anything kids get that age elsewhere.

Oh please. You have no idea how non-Montessori math works if you think other kids don't also learn those things.

If the kids are really soooo advanced they should be able to order numbers 1-100 in 3rd grade FFS.

Look you can insult me as much as you like, but I have extensive experience in both systems and I can tell you that the traditional school with rote learning and strict boundaries on what you learn in what grade (no addition beyond 10 and no multiplication or division in second grade for example) is considerably inferior to Montessori. Given that you clearly don’t have broad understanding of Montessori math you’re not in much of a position to dispute this.

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Anonymous wrote:Montessori students gain valuable skills learning how to be independent and take care of themselves at an early age. The fine motor skills that are practiced in Montessori help the students with handwriting (they learn cursive starting in PK3).

So they can write "I am failing math" in cursive?

Anyone who thinks that knows nothing about how the Montessori math curriculum works. It’s incredible and Montessori kids end up several grade levels ahead of their traditional school peers with an excellent foundation in math.

Except at Lee where most 3rd-5th graders are working below grade level in math.

That certainly depends on how you measure it. If you go into the classroom and see those kids working on long division, algebra and how to determine area for their entire classroom you won’t think they are behind. If you look at the test scores for a school that is anti testing, sure you can conclude that. The depth of knowledge there can not be measured by PARRC.

I have no dog in this fight but I’m having a really hard time believing anything you write.
Oh please. "Depth of knowledge" but still scoring a ONE on the PARCC? Come on. Even allowing for lack of computer skills and unfamiliarity with the style of math, people with even a little bit of knowledge should be able to get a 2.

+100. “Working on” algebra and long division doesn’t mean these kids have a solid grasp on the fundamentals. Are they getting correct answers? Do they have a deep understanding of the concepts? Otherwise, it’s just optics, which appears to thrill parents of younger students. But if your child is truly struggling with these concepts, you see beyond this smoke and mirrors.

Yes, yes, yes!!!! Montessori math is amazing. They absolutely have an understanding of the concepts way being traditional school. Every school should adopt Montessori metrics to teach math. Even what they do are 3 or 4 builds on what they do next to take them to understand advanced concepts in geometry for example. If there’s in’s thing I’m absolutely persuaded of it’s how well Montessori teaches math and gives kids a solid foundation. There is no reciting facts, it’s actually learning how the decimal system works and how numbers and shapes relate to each other, for example. Way beyond anything kids get that age elsewhere.

Even the math PARCC involves considerable typing. Kids also have to explain their work (typed). A written explanation of math work is not something that happens in Montessori. Ask the kids to demonstrate or explain and they do, but do it on a screen and then type an explanation is not some thing they are familiar with. Neither is following test instructions to be honest.