GT notification letters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when to expect them?

Do they still send them out? What does GT means anymore given that enrichment and magnet placements are lottery based.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when to expect them?

Do they still send them out? What does GT means anymore given that enrichment and magnet placements are lottery based.

GT never had any real significance. It's something Maryland requires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when to expect them?

Do they still send them out? What does GT means anymore given that enrichment and magnet placements are lottery based.

GT never had any real significance. It's something Maryland requires.

Isn't every child a GT in one way or other? How does Lottery help meets the state requirement?

[Anonymous]

The rampant misinformation on so many threads on DCUM is terrible. The GT letter is used by home schools to identify kids for enrichment in math and/or literacy. This enrichment is not lottery based.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rampant misinformation on so many threads on DCUM is terrible. The GT letter is used by home schools to identify kids for enrichment in math and/or literacy. This enrichment is not lottery based.

This is just PR. Have you been to classrooms or spoke to your child at MCPS? There is no enrichment happening at the local schools anymore. No cohorts for reading and math either. I have to wonder what enrichment are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The rampant misinformation on so many threads on DCUM is terrible. The GT letter is used by home schools to identify kids for enrichment in math and/or literacy. This enrichment is not lottery based.

This is just PR. Have you been to classrooms or spoke to your child at MCPS? There is no enrichment happening at the local schools anymore. No cohorts for reading and math either. I have to wonder what enrichment are you talking about?

Yes, my child has had pull outs for math, and literacy enrichment was through small group. Could it be better? Absolutely. The point is that he was identified for enrichment based on the GT letter. The quality of enrichment leaves much too be desired, but it's better than nothing and he enjoyed the pullouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The rampant misinformation on so many threads on DCUM is terrible. The GT letter is used by home schools to identify kids for enrichment in math and/or literacy. This enrichment is not lottery based.

This is just PR. Have you been to classrooms or spoke to your child at MCPS? There is no enrichment happening at the local schools anymore. No cohorts for reading and math either. I have to wonder what enrichment are you talking about?

Yes, my child has had pull outs for math, and literacy enrichment was through small group. Could it be better? Absolutely. The point is that he was identified for enrichment based on the GT letter. The quality of enrichment leaves much too be desired, but it's better than nothing and he enjoyed the pullouts.

GT designation is not meaningless. That’s what we had thought though that its meaningless. Unfortunately it is used for literacy enrichment and assigning reading groups. My DC has been a strong reader from a very young age. Was always placed in the highest reading groups from K-2, but did not get GT designation (because if missing data) in 2nd and was blindly placed in the lowest group in 3rd grade. When I approached the teacher I was told only the GT kids get to read chapter books in reading groups. It didn’t matter that my DC had a high MAP R score or the fact that DC was actually an awesome reader. So yeah the designation is not meaningless. It is being used to widen the achievement gap between the lowest and the highest reading groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense to me. My only kid who i felt was way more gifted than my other 2 who were designated gifted by mcps was found not gifted by mcps. I don’t know what’s going on. Based on some assessment on which he scored 4 but MAP was 99 percentile he did not meet the gifted criteria. Something is fishy here. What are these assessments? Is it because of a teacher shortage that they are doing this? Moreover, my kid has been above grade in reading throughout and yet it says his reading level is on grade level on the letter I received. It makes no sense. Someone is lying here..

Same!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The rampant misinformation on so many threads on DCUM is terrible. The GT letter is used by home schools to identify kids for enrichment in math and/or literacy. This enrichment is not lottery based.

This is just PR. Have you been to classrooms or spoke to your child at MCPS? There is no enrichment happening at the local schools anymore. No cohorts for reading and math either. I have to wonder what enrichment are you talking about?

Yes, my child has had pull outs for math, and literacy enrichment was through small group. Could it be better? Absolutely. The point is that he was identified for enrichment based on the GT letter. The quality of enrichment leaves much too be desired, but it's better than nothing and he enjoyed the pullouts.

GT designation is not meaningless. That’s what we had thought though that its meaningless. Unfortunately it is used for literacy enrichment and assigning reading groups. My DC has been a strong reader from a very young age. Was always placed in the highest reading groups from K-2, but did not get GT designation (because if missing data) in 2nd and was blindly placed in the lowest group in 3rd grade. When I approached the teacher I was told only the GT kids get to read chapter books in reading groups. It didn’t matter that my DC had a high MAP R score or the fact that DC was actually an awesome reader. So yeah the designation is not meaningless. It is being used to widen the achievement gap between the lowest and the highest reading groups.

PP here- i wanted to update that it really did cause a problem for my kid in 3rd grade. Especially the missing MAP RF score from last Spring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GT's pretty meaningless.

What’s the point of it then? Why do they do it?

It's mandated by the state.

MCPS G&T—> Centers for Excellence —> CES admits only from low performing schools—> back to tracking and tons of homework for g&T students in home schools.

Mandated by state? Only brought magnet or CES seats in the 500 sq mile county for like 0.01%. Underserves the top quartile and decile big time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The rampant misinformation on so many threads on DCUM is terrible. The GT letter is used by home schools to identify kids for enrichment in math and/or literacy. This enrichment is not lottery based.

This is just PR. Have you been to classrooms or spoke to your child at MCPS? There is no enrichment happening at the local schools anymore. No cohorts for reading and math either. I have to wonder what enrichment are you talking about?

4th grade and up has it

Middle school has it across ela, humanities/history and math.

BCC pyramid does at least

[Anonymous]

quick update. My DC who wasn’t ‘gifted’ last year due to missing data is now ‘gifted’ according to mcps. The MAP threshold for both reading and math is 80th percentile. Plus a score of 5 on some math and ELA assessments. Thought this might be helpful to someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:quick update. My DC who wasn’t ‘gifted’ last year due to missing data is now ‘gifted’ according to mcps. The MAP threshold for both reading and math is 80th percentile. Plus a score of 5 on some math and ELA assessments. Thought this might be helpful to someone.

We just got it in the mail yesterday. Not surprisingly, my 2nd grader didn't make it, as she only hit the targets in math (99th percentile on MAP), not reading/ELA, and the way they set it up, 3 of 4 academic criteria means you have to have at least one in each category. Not sure it matters much though - for instance, her Dibels score was 395, with the cutoff being 423, but I know the only part where she scored below grade level was with sounding out fake words and she reads a ton, so we're not exactly concerned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:quick update. My DC who wasn’t ‘gifted’ last year due to missing data is now ‘gifted’ according to mcps. The MAP threshold for both reading and math is 80th percentile. Plus a score of 5 on some math and ELA assessments. Thought this might be helpful to someone.

It is amazing to me that MCPS continues to misunderstand how to use “multiple measures” in identifying students for enriched/accelerated instruction. You’re supposed to use all the measures holistically, giving students who may not perform well in certain ways the opportunity to show their potential and be scooped up and given a chance in accelerated instruction. Instead, MCPS uses single data points to eliminate students and gatekeep opportunities in spite of otherwise compelling data. To make matters worse, schools point fingers at Central Office and Central office points fingers at schools, leaving families gaslit about the process and criteria, and giving some students at some schools access and others with sometimes more compelling data barriers. There’s this underlying assumption that any parents questioning the inconsistencies are entitled/demanding/annoying. Really toxic and quite frankly completely unnecessary and in total opposition to all of the district’s stated and published goals on the subject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The rampant misinformation on so many threads on DCUM is terrible. The GT letter is used by home schools to identify kids for enrichment in math and/or literacy. This enrichment is not lottery based.

This is just PR. Have you been to classrooms or spoke to your child at MCPS? There is no enrichment happening at the local schools anymore. No cohorts for reading and math either. I have to wonder what enrichment are you talking about?

Yes, my child has had pull outs for math, and literacy enrichment was through small group. Could it be better? Absolutely. The point is that he was identified for enrichment based on the GT letter. The quality of enrichment leaves much too be desired, but it's better than nothing and he enjoyed the pullouts.

GT designation is not meaningless. That’s what we had thought though that its meaningless. Unfortunately it is used for literacy enrichment and assigning reading groups. My DC has been a strong reader from a very young age. Was always placed in the highest reading groups from K-2, but did not get GT designation (because if missing data) in 2nd and was blindly placed in the lowest group in 3rd grade. When I approached the teacher I was told only the GT kids get to read chapter books in reading groups. It didn’t matter that my DC had a high MAP R score or the fact that DC was actually an awesome reader. So yeah the designation is not meaningless. It is being used to widen the achievement gap between the lowest and the highest reading groups.

What data was missing?

Anyway if your kid is an amazing reader then she's already on the high side of the achievement gap and doesn't need one more book per quarter.