Is Montgomery county a sanctuary county?

[Anonymous]

Erlich said it’s not but many policies make it seem that way. I have found an official declaration. Anyone have any background on this?

[Anonymous]

There is no legal definition of a sanctuary county or city.

The former Maryland Attorney General issued a guidance to the entire state, advising that local jurisdictions not honor certain detainers that don't have probable cause that a crime has been committed. The argument is we should not detain people against their 4th amendment rights, and yes, undocumented individuals have that Constitutional right.

But ICE knows about everyone in the system here. As soon as someone is fingerprinted, those prints go to the feds. It's whether ICE can get here in time to take someone into custody as they are released from Montgomery County custody that's a problem.

It's easy to come pick up someone who served 8 months and they all know that person is getting released March 5. It's not so easy for those pending trial with bails. Let's say Joey has a $25,000 bail for a low level theft. There is no way to know whether his mom will bail him out on a particular day, if at all. And once the release procedures begin, the county does not slow them down to wait for ICE. Again, because the county could potentially be held liable for holding someone without probable cause. (Many ICE/immigration detainers are civil).

[Anonymous]

I hope it is. Every place should be.

[Anonymous]

When moco Police interact with someone they don’t ask for proof of legal status. If that’s what you mean then yes it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When moco Police interact with someone they don’t ask for proof of legal status. If that’s what you mean then yes it is.

They don't even ask. And haven't for almost 20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no legal definition of a sanctuary county or city.

The former Maryland Attorney General issued a guidance to the entire state, advising that local jurisdictions not honor certain detainers that don't have probable cause that a crime has been committed. The argument is we should not detain people against their 4th amendment rights, and yes, undocumented individuals have that Constitutional right.

But ICE knows about everyone in the system here. As soon as someone is fingerprinted, those prints go to the feds. It's whether ICE can get here in time to take someone into custody as they are released from Montgomery County custody that's a problem.

It's easy to come pick up someone who served 8 months and they all know that person is getting released March 5. It's not so easy for those pending trial with bails. Let's say Joey has a $25,000 bail for a low level theft. There is no way to know whether his mom will bail him out on a particular day, if at all. And once the release procedures begin, the county does not slow them down to wait for ICE. Again, because the county could potentially be held liable for holding someone without probable cause. (Many ICE/immigration detainers are civil).

The bolded is not factually true. It's not that and certain attorney general issued a guidance to not violate people civil right Maryland just does not violate people's constitutional rights.

The rest is correct. Under Obama, he increased the number of ICE so they had a office inside major crimes in Montgomery county and they could easily get to the jail when someone who needed to be deported was arrested. Obama deported more criminals than any other president of our time.

But under Trump ICE cut back on those officers because if he created a problem he could say he was going to solve it.

[Anonymous]

Damn you, Mayor Erlich!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope it is. Every place should be.

How many people are you housing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope it is. Every place should be.

We should harbor illegal criminals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope it is. Every place should be.

How many people are you housing?

They won’t answer bc the number is 0.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope it is. Every place should be.

How many people are you housing?

They won’t answer bc the number is 0.

Probably the same people that are all about diversity yet bought in the Whitman district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no legal definition of a sanctuary county or city.

The former Maryland Attorney General issued a guidance to the entire state, advising that local jurisdictions not honor certain detainers that don't have probable cause that a crime has been committed. The argument is we should not detain people against their 4th amendment rights, and yes, undocumented individuals have that Constitutional right.

But ICE knows about everyone in the system here. As soon as someone is fingerprinted, those prints go to the feds. It's whether ICE can get here in time to take someone into custody as they are released from Montgomery County custody that's a problem.

It's easy to come pick up someone who served 8 months and they all know that person is getting released March 5. It's not so easy for those pending trial with bails. Let's say Joey has a $25,000 bail for a low level theft. There is no way to know whether his mom will bail him out on a particular day, if at all. And once the release procedures begin, the county does not slow them down to wait for ICE. Again, because the county could potentially be held liable for holding someone without probable cause. (Many ICE/immigration detainers are civil).

The bolded is not factually true. It's not that and certain attorney general issued a guidance to not violate people civil right Maryland just does not violate people's constitutional rights.

The rest is correct. Under Obama, he increased the number of ICE so they had a office inside major crimes in Montgomery county and they could easily get to the jail when someone who needed to be deported was arrested. Obama deported more criminals than any other president of our time.

But under Trump ICE cut back on those officers because if he created a problem he could say he was going to solve it.

You said it's not true, but that you added a bunch of information that doesn't contradict it. How do you know it's not true?

What non-Constitutional civil right are you alluding to?

[Anonymous]

Arlington is a sanctuary county:

https://www.arlnow.com/2024/03/04/arlington-considers-removing-immigration-status-requirements-for-low-income-housing-grants/

[Anonymous]

It is. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing that completely depends on what your point of view.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no legal definition of a sanctuary county or city.

The former Maryland Attorney General issued a guidance to the entire state, advising that local jurisdictions not honor certain detainers that don't have probable cause that a crime has been committed. The argument is we should not detain people against their 4th amendment rights, and yes, undocumented individuals have that Constitutional right.

But ICE knows about everyone in the system here. As soon as someone is fingerprinted, those prints go to the feds. It's whether ICE can get here in time to take someone into custody as they are released from Montgomery County custody that's a problem.

It's easy to come pick up someone who served 8 months and they all know that person is getting released March 5. It's not so easy for those pending trial with bails. Let's say Joey has a $25,000 bail for a low level theft. There is no way to know whether his mom will bail him out on a particular day, if at all. And once the release procedures begin, the county does not slow them down to wait for ICE. Again, because the county could potentially be held liable for holding someone without probable cause. (Many ICE/immigration detainers are civil).

The bolded is not factually true. It's not that and certain attorney general issued a guidance to not violate people civil right Maryland just does not violate people's constitutional rights.

The rest is correct. Under Obama, he increased the number of ICE so they had a office inside major crimes in Montgomery county and they could easily get to the jail when someone who needed to be deported was arrested. Obama deported more criminals than any other president of our time.

But under Trump ICE cut back on those officers because if he created a problem he could say he was going to solve it.

The guidance: https://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/Reports/Immigration_Law_Guidance.pdf