Is that asd?

[Anonymous]

My older son has asd (diagnosed at 3) & adhd (diagnosed at 5). Developmental pediatrican suspects my younger daughter (5 year old) have asd and adhd, and she is on long waiting list for ADOS testing. Since she is 5 already, I still cannot tell that she has asd. My older son does not have typical signs for asd, and he is cheerful, social, talkative, no lining up toys, love to make friends. He is a bit rigid, need to learn emotional regulation, a bit silly & weird, and miss some social friendship signs to maintain friendship. It was me insisting to test him for autism at 1.5 year old, 2 year old year, and 3 year old, and they finally confirmed that he has asd.

For my 5 year old daughter, I don't see any signs for asd. She is cheerful, talkative, funny, and she is good at making and maintaining friendship. She has a lot of facial emotion, unlike my older son. She is good at kissing asses and sweet talks. I may miss something because she is a girl. What could I miss? She still has speech disorder & she may have adhd & learning difficulties. Anyone knows that if ADOS testing can also diagnosis other things like adhd or so?

[Anonymous]

My 4 yo daughter just got diagnosed with ASD.

She is sweet, playful, good at taking turns, definitely a lot of facial emotion, and affectionate. She struggles with pretend play and perspective taking. She doesn't have much curiosity about other people's experiences.

[Anonymous]

This doesn’t sound like ASD to me, as a special education teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My older son has asd (diagnosed at 3) & adhd (diagnosed at 5). Developmental pediatrican suspects my younger daughter (5 year old) have asd and adhd, and she is on long waiting list for ADOS testing. Since she is 5 already, I still cannot tell that she has asd. My older son does not have typical signs for asd, and he is cheerful, social, talkative, no lining up toys, love to make friends. He is a bit rigid, need to learn emotional regulation, a bit silly & weird, and miss some social friendship signs to maintain friendship. It was me insisting to test him for autism at 1.5 year old, 2 year old year, and 3 year old, and they finally confirmed that he has asd.

For my 5 year old daughter, I don't see any signs for asd. She is cheerful, talkative, funny, and she is good at making and maintaining friendship. She has a lot of facial emotion, unlike my older son. She is good at kissing asses and sweet talks. I may miss something because she is a girl. What could I miss? She still has speech disorder & she may have adhd & learning difficulties. Anyone knows that if ADOS testing can also diagnosis other things like adhd or so?

I have no idea if your kid has Autism but at 5 it is not hard to maintain friendships. My daughter got dxed much older and it slowly became harder and harder to maintain friendships. As other kids got more mature in their understanding and just more developed socially, my DD did not. Girls often get diagnosed later for this reason.

Still, maybe your kid isn't ASD, I don't know. But things sometimes become clearer later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This doesn’t sound like ASD to me, as a special education teacher.

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there is not nearly enough information in that post for you to say that definitively, first of all.
Secondly, since when do teachers diagnose kids at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This doesn’t sound like ASD to me, as a special education teacher.

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there is not nearly enough information in that post for you to say that definitively, first of all.
Secondly, since when do teachers diagnose kids at all?

+1 no professional in this world knows everything about everything. The best professionals know what they know and what they don't know. Unfortunately, I am bracing myself for teachers disbelieving my child's diagnosis made by someone who is qualified to diagnose.

[Anonymous]

Op here. I forgot to mention one thing is that both of my kids have no stranger awareness. They are TOO FRIENDLY to strangers ( adults or kids), and developmental pediatrican says it is a red flag. My son still has no personal space awareness, but he is more alert about strangers over time. My daughter is 50% 50%, and she can hug random strangers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I forgot to mention one thing is that both of my kids have no stranger awareness. They are TOO FRIENDLY to strangers ( adults or kids), and developmental pediatrican says it is a red flag. My son still has no personal space awareness, but he is more alert about strangers over time. My daughter is 50% 50%, and she can hug random strangers.

Yup, red flag for social awareness, and also for sensory seeking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I forgot to mention one thing is that both of my kids have no stranger awareness. They are TOO FRIENDLY to strangers ( adults or kids), and developmental pediatrican says it is a red flag. My son still has no personal space awareness, but he is more alert about strangers over time. My daughter is 50% 50%, and she can hug random strangers.

I have a DD who wasn’t diagnosed until she was a teen. She would have aced the ADOS. Sure there were subtle, subtle signs, looking back. Her pediatrician had a child on the spectrum, but she had zero concerns about my DD. It wasn’t until middle school and relationships got more sophisticated and she struggled, did we think about looking for a diagnosis. Girls present so so so different. My DD had excellent pretend play skills and loved doing pretend games with her friends. I would definitely have concerns if the developmental pediatrician had concerns. Even if it is a mild case, at least you can be working on coping skills now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This doesn’t sound like ASD to me, as a special education teacher.

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there is not nearly enough information in that post for you to say that definitively, first of all.
Secondly, since when do teachers diagnose kids at all?

this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I forgot to mention one thing is that both of my kids have no stranger awareness. They are TOO FRIENDLY to strangers ( adults or kids), and developmental pediatrican says it is a red flag. My son still has no personal space awareness, but he is more alert about strangers over time. My daughter is 50% 50%, and she can hug random strangers.

I have a DD who wasn’t diagnosed until she was a teen. She would have aced the ADOS. Sure there were subtle, subtle signs, looking back. Her pediatrician had a child on the spectrum, but she had zero concerns about my DD. It wasn’t until middle school and relationships got more sophisticated and she struggled, did we think about looking for a diagnosis. Girls present so so so different. My DD had excellent pretend play skills and loved doing pretend games with her friends. I would definitely have concerns if the developmental pediatrician had concerns. Even if it is a mild case, at least you can be working on coping skills now.

what made you get her re evaluated?

[Anonymous]

So many questions about your post. Why did you keep getting your son evaluated at such a young age? It sounds like you were diagnosis shopping. What did the developmental pediatrician say when you asked him why he suspects autism?
An anonymous board can't tell you why he thinks what he thinks and your original description includes no behaviors related to autism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many questions about your post. Why did you keep getting your son evaluated at such a young age? It sounds like you were diagnosis shopping. What did the developmental pediatrician say when you asked him why he suspects autism?
An anonymous board can't tell you why he thinks what he thinks and your original description includes no behaviors related to autism.

I found OP's question quite straightforward and sounds like she did the right thing by insisting on getting her son evaluated. She sounds like a great mom.

The answer to her question is yes it is possible a child with those characteristics can have autism. OP clearly knows we can't diagnose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many questions about your post. Why did you keep getting your son evaluated at such a young age? It sounds like you were diagnosis shopping. What did the developmental pediatrician say when you asked him why he suspects autism?
An anonymous board can't tell you why he thinks what he thinks and your original description includes no behaviors related to autism.

Op here. My older son failed 18 months mchat testing. I was not diagnosis shopping, but he had zero word, avoiding eye contact & no pointing at 18 months. Those were first signs that mother instinct knew that something was wrong with him. He almost outgrew all those symptoms before 3 years old, and then developmental pediatrican mentioned that he was too friendly to strangers with no awareness of personal space. I have been paying close attention to younger daughter for any autim signs since little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many questions about your post. Why did you keep getting your son evaluated at such a young age? It sounds like you were diagnosis shopping. What did the developmental pediatrician say when you asked him why he suspects autism?
An anonymous board can't tell you why he thinks what he thinks and your original description includes no behaviors related to autism.

I found OP's question quite straightforward and sounds like she did the right thing by insisting on getting her son evaluated. She sounds like a great mom.

The answer to her question is yes it is possible a child with those characteristics can have autism. OP clearly knows we can't diagnose.

I couldn't make heads or tails out of her post.