MAP scores kindergarten

[Anonymous]

I feel silly even posting about this but have parents of older children found that MAP scores for kindergarten were very predictive of test performance later in elementary school?

[Anonymous]

Not really. MAP scores in K are mostly indicative of what kids' wildly different pre-K educational areas of focus were.

[Anonymous]

Agree with PP. They reflect exposure. Not meaningful until kids are older.

[Anonymous]

Kindergarten teacher here. (On lunch break). When my kids were young, we opted out of MAP testing. Standardized testing before third grade, imo, is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel silly even posting about this but have parents of older children found that MAP scores for kindergarten were very predictive of test performance later in elementary school?

If your kids actually try to answer the question. One of our did, the older one said she'd just press "whatever to finish the test so I can do something more fun." I commended her on her approach. So ridiculous to test before 2nd or 3rd grade and it should only be one test the whole year, at the end of the year but 3rd is when the MCAP state assessment begins. Again, too much testing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kindergarten teacher here. (On lunch break). When my kids were young, we opted out of MAP testing. Standardized testing before third grade, imo, is stupid.

Appreciate all the responses. This in particular -- it hadn't really occurred to me that opting out was something we could do, but good to know.

[Anonymous]

With my daughter, yes…..her first MAP math score was an 89% and she hovered right around that through 4th. She is a very good student.

[Anonymous]

For ours, no. She was a mid 70s percentile in kindergarten, and is 99th percentile now. She settled into her current range in the second half of first grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree with PP. They reflect exposure. Not meaningful until kids are older.

+1 Kids have wildly different preK experiences, with some of the most academic options being offered to low income/working class communities. A kid coming out of HeadStart might very well have better pre-literacy than a child coming out of Forest PreK but it doesn't mean much in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kindergarten teacher here. (On lunch break). When my kids were young, we opted out of MAP testing. Standardized testing before third grade, imo, is stupid.

Any computer based testing with kindergarteners is pretty useless info. Now if he was assessed one on one with DIBELS, that is useful information.

[Anonymous]

I genuinely don't understand the point of giving kids a test when they can't even read.

I had the fun experience of having a kid in K during pandemic Zoom school... apparently scores that year were wildly inflated because all the K kids doing the tests all had overly helpful parents or older siblings sitting nearby.

FWIW my kid has always tested well, but started doing better as he got older.

[Anonymous]

Yes. Oldest started at 99% and stayed there. Younger one around 90% and also fluctuated around there between 85 and 95.

[Anonymous]

2 kids. Their lowest map m percentiles were the first kindergarten test. Also neither kid was particularly comfortable with a computer at that point.

[Anonymous]

As a K teacher, I find the fall MAP scores to not even be predictive of the student performance in kindergarten. Even if the k8d is actually trying to answer a question, a lot of the response formats are frustrating (drag ans drop) and lead to kids just picking an answer until one sticks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a K teacher, I find the fall MAP scores to not even be predictive of the student performance in kindergarten. Even if the k8d is actually trying to answer a question, a lot of the response formats are frustrating (drag ans drop) and lead to kids just picking an answer until one sticks.

Yes, my K student was upset that he couldn’t figure out how to answer some questions, particularly the dragging part, because he has never used a computer mouse/trackpad before. He even said he asked for help from an adult but they couldn’t get it either. (This could be totally made up, of course, he’s in K.) He also said it wasn’t fair that the test asked 200+200 because “nobody can know.”