Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the total vacancies in FCPS elementary schools now? High School gets a lot of attention for teachers leaving as it should, but I think there's also a big Exodus in elementary school.

Over 600 positions for just ES as of 7/17. Terrifying. There are literally no resumes, either.

Where did you find this information? Thanks!

It is not public… I am sure FCPS also does not WANT it to be public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the total vacancies in FCPS elementary schools now? High School gets a lot of attention for teachers leaving as it should, but I think there's also a big Exodus in elementary school.

Over 600 positions for just ES as of 7/17. Terrifying. There are literally no resumes, either.

What’s a typical range for this number in recent years at this point in the cycle?

[Anonymous]

"There are literally no resumes, either."

I'm sure this is not true. However, even if there are 500 resumes, which there probably aren't, that is not good at all.

[Anonymous]

Over 600 positions for just ES as of 7/17. Terrifying. There are literally no resumes, either. [/quote wrote:


Is there a breakdown for this? General education, special education, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Over 600 positions for just ES as of 7/17. Terrifying. There are literally no resumes, either. [/quote wrote:


Is there a breakdown for this? General education, special education, etc.

Less than 300 are actual teacher vacancies. 150 are general education teachers and 140 are sped teachers. The other vacancies are instructional assts and monitors. The 600+ number is really skewed because of the monitors. Elementary schools were staffed with them to help with planning time coverage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s rough. Teachers are at their breaking point. To those of you blaming the school board, you can go fly a kite. This is happening all over the country. It’s not an FCPS thing. Colleagues went to a job fair at UVA last week. There were school districts from Texas there vying for the handful of teacher candidates.

—an overwhelmed principal

You pretend you are overwhelmed but it’s you that’s the problem. The solution is simple: run orderly schools where there are consequences for unruly behavior. Ban cellphones on campus. Trust me, you will have better teacher retention.

For 170k I'm not going to work myself to the bone. I'll do what is within my reach and fits my work schedule but beyond that it is what it is. You can feel free to campaign for the implementation of those policies you mentioned or you can apply for a job and try to "run orderly schools" yourself.

You make it sound like $170,000 is not much money. I make around that much and frequently work evenings and weekends. Summer is also my busiest time of year.

How many people are you supervising?
How old are you?
What graduate degrees do you have?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From what I've witnessed kids are behaving better this year than at the beginning of the 2021-22 school year, when middle school students and 9th graders seemed particularly feral. It's just going to take some time given the disruption to learning and development. Parents can't expect teachers to be miracle workers nor can teachers expect parents to have fully compensated for the disruption forced upon them by the public schools. What the teachers can and should do is push back against the refusal of school administrators to discipline students or the imposition of oppressive training and ongoing reporting requirements that interferes with their ability to function effectively in a classroom.

The primary problems I see among the kids in my neighborhood and the ones on my children's sports teams are almost all related to poor parenting. These kids are held accountable for nothing, their parents jump in to rescue them from any adversity, and the kids are showered with things rather than given structure. Speaking to the parents at practice or in the neighborhood, I am disgusted to hear them blame others for everything their kids do. The kids aren't expected to take any responsibility for a single thing. The parents especially seem to vilify teachers and schools, which is wrong. Parents need to look in the mirror and directly at their children when evaluating whom is to blame for kids' bad behavior.

I watch my neighbor children intentionally litter their snack wrappers, and their parents excuse it, saying they didn't know to throw away their trash. If your 12-year-old doesn't know to throw away their trash, that's a reflection of your poor parenting.

The way my children's teammates speak to the coach and to their own parents is appalling. If your 10-year-old completely ignores adults speaking to them, that's a reflection of your poor parenting. If your 10-year-old can't even listen to the coach's directions for 3 minutes without rudely interrupting him or bouncing a ball against the wall while the coach is talking, that's a reflection on you as a parent (Before anyone jumps on me and says that some kids are not neutotypical, I am aware of that, but when 50% of the team acts this way, I'm sure it is not all because of neurodivergence.)

When my kids have invited their classmates to a birthday party, I have encountered kids (ages 8+) who have broken all the plastic forks before cake time, parents who have sent demanding lists of foods, music, and activities that their children like or do not like, kids who have thrown temper tantrums when I tell them they may not go through our personal items, and parents who just stand there watching their kids destroy other people's property.


If the above are the types of behaviors schools are encountering from both students and parents, no wonder the teachers are burning out! They must feel so discouraged and frustrated! I know I am, and I only have to deal with this nonsense a few hours per week!

Thank you for this. I am a teacher and 100 percent agree.

1 million percent these kids could care less what teachers and admin say and they care even less when their parents speak to them. Blatant disrespect and it's all day.

100%

[Anonymous]

It’s ironic how the left was all about how “it takes a village” to raise kids but, after they decided to shut down the village for an extended period, concluded it was appropriate to constantly attack parents for not properly socializing their kids.

It’s also not surprising that some parents then decided to return the favor by criticizing school employees for lowered standards when it comes to both academic expectations and behavioral norms. It wasn’t parents who decided that discipline should be tossed aside in favor of “restorative justice” and the like - that came from the educational establishment.

In the end, the festering distrust serves no one because we have a common interest in the next generation becoming functioning, law-abiding adults, notwithstanding some of the disruptions to their development due to Covid. It’s quite disappointing to see many of the comments on this thread, which betray a lack of both perspective and empathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the total vacancies in FCPS elementary schools now? High School gets a lot of attention for teachers leaving as it should, but I think there's also a big Exodus in elementary school.

Over 600 positions for just ES as of 7/17. Terrifying. There are literally no resumes, either.

Where did you find this information? Thanks!

It is not public… I am sure FCPS also does not WANT it to be public

You can get an idea from the vacancy list.
https://careers.fcps.edu/vl/vacancy.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic how the left was all about how “it takes a village” to raise kids but, after they decided to shut down the village for an extended period, concluded it was as appropriate to constantly attack parents for not properly socializing their kids.

It’s also not surprising that some parents then return the favor by criticizing school employees for lowered standards when it comes to both academic expectations and behavioral norms. It wasn’t parents who decided that discipline should be tossed aside in favof “restorative justice” and the like - that came from the educational establishment.

In the end, the festering distrust serves no one because we have a common interest in the next generation becoming functioning, law-abiding adults, notwithstanding some of the disruptions to their development due to Covid. It’s quite disappointing to see many of the comments on this thread, which betray a real lack of perspective or empathy.

Would you like some bread with your word salad 🥗?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"There are literally no resumes, either."

I'm sure this is not true. However, even if there are 500 resumes, which there probably aren't, that is not good at all.

Principal here. There are no resumes coming in. I have 3 general ed openings and 1 special ed. We are already looking for long term subs for those classrooms but even that is difficult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Over 600 positions for just ES as of 7/17. Terrifying. There are literally no resumes, either. [/quote wrote:


Is there a breakdown for this? General education, special education, etc.

Less than 300 are actual teacher vacancies. 150 are general education teachers and 140 are sped teachers. The other vacancies are instructional assts and monitors. The 600+ number is really skewed because of the monitors. Elementary schools were staffed with them to help with planning time coverage.

The vacancy list isn’t accurate. One listing can be several positions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic how the left was all about how “it takes a village” to raise kids but, after they decided to shut down the village for an extended period, concluded it was as appropriate to constantly attack parents for not properly socializing their kids.

It’s also not surprising that some parents then return the favor by criticizing school employees for lowered standards when it comes to both academic expectations and behavioral norms. It wasn’t parents who decided that discipline should be tossed aside in favof “restorative justice” and the like - that came from the educational establishment.

In the end, the festering distrust serves no one because we have a common interest in the next generation becoming functioning, law-abiding adults, notwithstanding some of the disruptions to their development due to Covid. It’s quite disappointing to see many of the comments on this thread, which betray a real lack of perspective or empathy.

Would you like some bread with your word salad 🥗?

You’re a moron. We get it. That’s why you aren’t paid more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Over 600 positions for just ES as of 7/17. Terrifying. There are literally no resumes, either. [/quote wrote:


Is there a breakdown for this? General education, special education, etc.

Less than 300 are actual teacher vacancies. 150 are general education teachers and 140 are sped teachers. The other vacancies are instructional assts and monitors. The 600+ number is really skewed because of the monitors. Elementary schools were staffed with them to help with planning time coverage.

Are you saying there's 300 IA/PHA/ monitor positions open? If so, that's really not good. Neither is 300 teacher vacancies at the elementary level.

[Anonymous]

I'm not in Fairfax, so feel free to disregard my post if you'd like.
I am in the Chicago area. I am sped certified and no joke, I'm getting emails and texts every single day, multiple times a day, asking me to interview for one of the thousands of sped positions that are open. I already have a job in gen ed. I think we're seeing the collapse of special ed and at some point, either the government is going to have to take over sped or it is going to have to be completely outsourced to private companies. Already, private companies are hiring "contract teachers" for these positions (paying them more, but they typically don't get a pension then).