TPMS and Eastern magnet HS admissions

[Anonymous]

Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

[Anonymous]

Well, that would make sense, given that this it the first group of 8th graders who were admitted into the MS magnets under the new lottery system. The HS magnets, however, are still completely criteria (and not lottery) based.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

The difference between lottery based admission and merit based admission are showing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

I get that it's anecdotal but my TPMS who got into SMCS says all their friends from school did too.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

I get that it's anecdotal but my TPMS who got into SMCS says all their friends from school did too.

Yeah, I think this thread is just an attempt to denigrate the magnets and the system that benefited lower SES students.

[Anonymous]

Some of you posters are crazy conspiracy theorists. It's a fair question to ask and MCPS should be publishing these statistics themselves. No one has any ulterior motives.

[Anonymous]

A lot of kids lie about getting in FWIW. A few years ago all of DC's friends claimed they got in but most did not.

It really worried me because I did not want to put DC in an environment where students would feel so much pressure that they would lie about admission to a program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids lie about getting in FWIW. A few years ago all of DC's friends claimed they got in but most did not.

It really worried me because I did not want to put DC in an environment where students would feel so much pressure that they would lie about admission to a program.

Sounds like your kid has some odd friends. My kids said a lot of his friends got in and they did.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

I get that it's anecdotal but my TPMS who got into SMCS says all their friends from school did too.

Yeah, I think this thread is just an attempt to denigrate the magnets and the system that benefited lower SES students.

Someone can report back after the accepted student open houses and we’ll find out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

I get that it's anecdotal but my TPMS who got into SMCS says all their friends from school did too.

Yeah, I think this thread is just an attempt to denigrate the magnets and the system that benefited lower SES students.

Agree. Every time the selection process was changed, I heard the same old story that “my DC’s cohort is smarter than the cohort of such and such years”. What they don’t understand is that there is little difference in“giftedness” among those kids who are qualified for accelerated programs (off course there are some outliers).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids lie about getting in FWIW. A few years ago all of DC's friends claimed they got in but most did not.

It really worried me because I did not want to put DC in an environment where students would feel so much pressure that they would lie about admission to a program.

Sounds like your kid has some odd friends. My kids said a lot of his friends got in and they did.

Similar experience, not close friends but several classmates in our DC's case said they got invites when they did not. DC is in the year where the acceptances came out during school so it's not surprising this happened when they were under pressure.

[Anonymous]

It was the same last year. Unfortunately the higher rigor of TPMS and Eastern is not taken into account by the HS selection committees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids lie about getting in FWIW. A few years ago all of DC's friends claimed they got in but most did not.

It really worried me because I did not want to put DC in an environment where students would feel so much pressure that they would lie about admission to a program.

My child experienced the same. Friends lied about where they were accepted, though my child interpreted that as "they were confused." To be fair, I think some were genuinely confused between DCC results and application based results, and then the panoply of other academy programs.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

I get that it's anecdotal but my TPMS who got into SMCS says all their friends from school did too.

Yeah, I think this thread is just an attempt to denigrate the magnets and the system that benefited lower SES students.

Agree. Every time the selection process was changed, I heard the same old story that “my DC’s cohort is smarter than the cohort of such and such years”. What they don’t understand is that there is little difference in“giftedness” among those kids who are qualified for accelerated programs (off course there are some outliers).

You're clearly white UMC and it's really odd you feel you need to jump in to all the threads and mount an assault on people who have different opinions than you.

When the process changes the mix of the students changes. It may not be raw intelligence that changes, but motivation, educational background and other factors. DC's teachers commented repeatedly that the type of students they got changed when they went to universal selection. More kids dropped out because more kids were not as passionate about the focus of the programs. That's just a fact. There was a note in some report about TPMS teachers creating more "support" in classes for kids who were less advantaged academically. That's another fact. It's clear some students were not coming in at the same high levels of knowledge as the previous students.

The lottery is a big change and it's reasonable to assume the motivations and background of those students are different than in the past and one question people are trying to answer as they make decisions about whether to accept a program invite is how big a difference the magnet MS makes in preparing you for high school. You are the only person making claims about one cohort being "smarter" than another.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a neighborhood parent it did not go that well this year for her child or their classmates. Is this true? Are HS magnet admissions from the MS magnets down significantly from the previous years?

I get that it's anecdotal but my TPMS who got into SMCS says all their friends from school did too.

Yeah, I think this thread is just an attempt to denigrate the magnets and the system that benefited lower SES students.

Agree. Every time the selection process was changed, I heard the same old story that “my DC’s cohort is smarter than the cohort of such and such years”. What they don’t understand is that there is little difference in“giftedness” among those kids who are qualified for accelerated programs (off course there are some outliers).

You're clearly white UMC and it's really odd you feel you need to jump in to all the threads and mount an assault on people who have different opinions than you.

When the process changes the mix of the students changes. It may not be raw intelligence that changes, but motivation, educational background and other factors. DC's teachers commented repeatedly that the type of students they got changed when they went to universal selection. More kids dropped out because more kids were not as passionate about the focus of the programs. That's just a fact. There was a note in some report about TPMS teachers creating more "support" in classes for kids who were less advantaged academically. That's another fact. It's clear some students were not coming in at the same high levels of knowledge as the previous students.

The lottery is a big change and it's reasonable to assume the motivations and background of those students are different than in the past and one question people are trying to answer as they make decisions about whether to accept a program invite is how big a difference the magnet MS makes in preparing you for high school. You are the only person making claims about one cohort being "smarter" than another.

I wanted to add in case you misinterpret things again or make assumptions that nearly all of the kids we know who dropped out of the programs due to lack of interest in the program or other reasons are UMC and white.