sleepaway math/STEM camps for middle schoolers not identifying?

[Anonymous]

What sleepaways camp opportunities are there for an academically ambitious middle schooler who does not identify (as black, female, poor, etc. - just a normal person).

I'm looking particularly in the midatlantic region. My research so far has shown:

- Johns Hopkins CTY (some courses)
- IDTech

Defunct:
- UVAs summer program
- Duke's TIP

Is there anything else? And then, second question, is there anything that's sponsored by public institutions/universities (again ignoring DEI initiatives, just for a general audience/open admission).

[Anonymous]

BTW, Black, female and poor is also a normal person. Find better ways to express yourself.

[Anonymous]

OP thinks only white upper class men are normal people... Which pretty much is why programs that explicitly try to recruit other people exist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP thinks only white upper class men are normal people... Which pretty much is why programs that explicitly try to recruit other people exist

That's wonderful. But I'm asking for programs that don't focus on _otherness_ as you call it, but that are open to any race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP thinks only white upper class men are normal people... Which pretty much is why programs that explicitly try to recruit other people exist

That's wonderful. But I'm asking for programs that don't focus on _otherness_ as you call it, but that are open to any race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

NP I have a white boy who is looking for the same thing so I get where you are coming from, but goodness your statements come across very poorly. You could have just said you're looking for something for your white son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What sleepaways camp opportunities are there for an academically ambitious middle schooler who does not identify (as black, female, poor, etc. - just a normal person).

I'm looking particularly in the midatlantic region. My research so far has shown:

- Johns Hopkins CTY (some courses)
- IDTech

Defunct:
- UVAs summer program
- Duke's TIP

Is there anything else? And then, second question, is there anything that's sponsored by public institutions/universities (again ignoring DEI initiatives, just for a general audience/open admission).

Are you actually stating that people who identify as female or black are not "normal people"?

Like you are so committed to that that you'll put it in writing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP thinks only white upper class men are normal people... Which pretty much is why programs that explicitly try to recruit other people exist

That's wonderful. But I'm asking for programs that don't focus on _otherness_ as you call it, but that are open to any race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

If your point was to ask about programs that accept white boys, then you could have asked that.

[Anonymous]

Space Camp on Wallops Island: https://www.vasfa.org/space-adventure-camp

[Anonymous]

Op, are you trying to ask for programs that don’t ask about how you self-identify? I don’t think people (myself included) know what you are asking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP thinks only white upper class men are normal people... Which pretty much is why programs that explicitly try to recruit other people exist

That's wonderful. But I'm asking for programs that don't focus on _otherness_ as you call it, but that are open to any race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

If your point was to ask about programs that accept white boys, then you could have asked that.

If I had a son and if I were thinking in racial categories, I would have asked that.

But what I actually asked is for programs that aren't restricted to groups that identify, and I provided examples of what some people identify with: being female, being black, or being poor.

Maybe we should stick with Title VII language. Or pretend I have a white son, haha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op, are you trying to ask for programs that don’t ask about how you self-identify? I don’t think people (myself included) know what you are asking?

That's a good question.

I would prefer that they wouldn't ask how you identify (certainly not race etc.), but there may be a case to be made for gender. Most kids that age would prefer non-coed arrangements.

But I'm mainly looking for things that aren't exclusively targeting some groups that not everyone would be able to join. Most of what my online research found at various college campuses was restricted to minority groups and not open to the general public.

[Anonymous]

CTY is restricted to kids who identify as gifted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CTY is restricted to kids who identify as gifted.

Identified not identify.

[Anonymous]

They basically don't exist, especially after Covid.. nobody wants to go to the Mid-Atlantic in summertime.
People want to go north and west in summer, where the weather is good.

The market for middle school academic sleepaway camp is nearly nil.

Why not take a few weeks break from academics for sleep away? Learn some off-paper / off-computer skills?
Plenty of commuter academic summer camps for the rest of summer.

[Anonymous]

Since sleep away camp is like a home life, most camps are culturally/ethnically/religion linked to provide a home-like experience.