ECNL moving to school year not calendar

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:GA is going SY


Expected. They are in a very different position in the youth landscape than MLSN, and can't afford to go against the grain.

For the would be U12 to U13 transition from SY to BY mess, they would lose their best Q1,2 players.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GA is going SY


Expected. They are in a very different position in the youth landscape than MLSN, and can't afford to go against the grain.

For the would be U12 to U13 transition from SY to BY mess, they would lose their best Q1,2 players.


If GA goes to SY, staying in BY alone will make MLSN (excluding MLS Academy) a bad boy. I don't think it will bring any marketing advantage for MLSN. I bet only MLS Academy will stay in BY and form their own league.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GA is going SY


Expected. They are in a very different position in the youth landscape than MLSN, and can't afford to go against the grain.

For the would be U12 to U13 transition from SY to BY mess, they would lose their best Q1,2 players.


If GA goes to SY, staying in BY alone will make MLSN (excluding MLS Academy) a bad boy. I don't think it will bring any marketing advantage for MLSN. I bet only MLS Academy will stay in BY and form their own league.


They wont form their own league, theres no reason for that, the whole like marketing strategy behind pay to play MLS Next is that you get to play against real academy teams. However, they could stay birth year all the want and just play up. The MLS Academy team near me has kids playing up an age group or two across all their teams anyway. They don't care.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They think these structural changes will improve youth soccer and therefore eventually the NT, which won’t happen.

The biggest issues in US soccer are:

1. Pay to play
2. Focus on physical attributes (size, strength, speed) rather than technical or tactical skills
3. A culture that emphasizes “winning” above all else

There are other problems as well, but the above 3 kill the development of the sport in the US.


The US womens team has been very successful with this system - and is in fact is #1 in the World!

https://inside.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/women


Referring to men’s system. My daughter also plays soccer and I would say it’s very different for them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They think these structural changes will improve youth soccer and therefore eventually the NT, which won’t happen.

The biggest issues in US soccer are:

1. Pay to play
2. Focus on physical attributes (size, strength, speed) rather than technical or tactical skills
3. A culture that emphasizes “winning” above all else

There are other problems as well, but the above 3 kill the development of the sport in the US.


The US womens team has been very successful with this system - and is in fact is #1 in the World!

https://inside.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/women


Referring to men’s system. My daughter also plays soccer and I would say it’s very different for them.



It's interesting that the pay to play system works for girls, but doesn't work for boys. Pudding = proof on the girls side right?
Anonymous
Girls in the rest of the world are kept in cages. Its not the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Girls in the rest of the world are kept in cages. Its not the same.


This is the reason. Now that it’s opened up more to women in the rest of the world, they’re catching up.
Anonymous
There is a disconnect between club and country. USWNT doesn't hesitate to incorporate smaller (5'5'' or lower) behaviors. Most clubs avoid these players simply because of size.

Look at Spain's women and their height.

The college game is this country is geared heavily towards size, clubs sell the dream of college so they cater to size too (customers want college). It's a systemic failure. As more smaller but talented players are weeded out of the club system we are going to be beat on the field technically at the national level. The upcoming reset of college athletics offers the chance to break the pay-to-play model.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GA is going SY


Expected. They are in a very different position in the youth landscape than MLSN, and can't afford to go against the grain.

For the would be U12 to U13 transition from SY to BY mess, they would lose their best Q1,2 players.


Our club director said it still isn't decided and he doesn't know.
Anonymous
My daughter is an August bday in a 8/1 cutoff grade state (Hawaii, we didn’t “hold her back” or start late). We only have 2 “late born” players on current club team. So she is currently in the same grade as only 1 of her teammates. Now, if 9/1 soccer cutoff date is enforced, she’ll be the only one in her grade on her club team, as well as the youngest by far. Not a great environment to motivate these kids to have fun/keep playing. Hope she keeps going, she trains hard. She would be a top player if she played in her grade. Reminds me of the Outliers book. There has to be a better way to organize youth sports.

https://youtu.be/VedGIR9v9G8?si=GysACqHta8F9PEz5
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is an August bday in a 8/1 cutoff grade state (Hawaii, we didn’t “hold her back” or start late). We only have 2 “late born” players on current club team. So she is currently in the same grade as only 1 of her teammates. Now, if 9/1 soccer cutoff date is enforced, she’ll be the only one in her grade on her club team, as well as the youngest by far. Not a great environment to motivate these kids to have fun/keep playing. Hope she keeps going, she trains hard. She would be a top player if she played in her grade. Reminds me of the Outliers book. There has to be a better way to organize youth sports.

https://youtu.be/VedGIR9v9G8?si=GysACqHta8F9PEz5



I bet you were pumped when you thought it was gonna be 8/1 cut off…

But I imagine each state may be able to deviate, so maybe you’ll get lucky and she’ll be back to being the oldest and dominate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They think these structural changes will improve youth soccer and therefore eventually the NT, which won’t happen.

The biggest issues in US soccer are:

1. Pay to play
2. Focus on physical attributes (size, strength, speed) rather than technical or tactical skills
3. A culture that emphasizes “winning” above all else

There are other problems as well, but the above 3 kill the development of the sport in the US.


The US womens team has been very successful with this system - and is in fact is #1 in the World!

https://inside.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/women


Referring to men’s system. My daughter also plays soccer and I would say it’s very different for them.


Women’s soccer doesn’t have to compete with American football
Anonymous
Honestly, just want her to be able to contribute to the team for memories, teamwork skills, developing grit and the friendships she’ll remember when she’s older. She probably wont play D1 college in soccer (she prob will in golf though as she is the same age as her competition, and it’s not a team sport). She can hang with the older girls in soccer, but they are physically more mature. Unfortunately, those older girls are the ones who more often get double rostered and 2-3 times the minutes/opportunities to develop from 8-9 years old. It adds up over time. It’s called relative age effect. Our club has only 2 girls born after June in her age division. Crazy phenomenon. I bet it’s true for your club too.

Listen to this if you have 30min:
https://youtu.be/VedGIR9v9G8?si=H77lCRo7x1RSxcGv
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:GA is going SY


My daughter’s coach/director said he wasn’t sure what the plan was yet as that has not been communicated. The plan would be to keep the key 2012 pieces of her team and implement some quality 2011s that are now part of the age group. No one will be forced down if they can play at the level.
But that’s just how are coach wants to do it If Ga changes.

If they stay By with mls then it’s business as usual.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They think these structural changes will improve youth soccer and therefore eventually the NT, which won’t happen.

The biggest issues in US soccer are:

1. Pay to play
2. Focus on physical attributes (size, strength, speed) rather than technical or tactical skills
3. A culture that emphasizes “winning” above all else

There are other problems as well, but the above 3 kill the development of the sport in the US.


I am an ECNL
coach with all my teams ranked high - small and technical is great - but gotta be tough and quick

Technical, fast, tough/Big - 95 times out of 100 - you have to be at least 2 of those

technical, small and slow - doesn’t matter how many private sessions you go to - most of the time, it’s a waste of time

no different than any other sports - Speed comes with athletiscm - this isn’t a technical sport like golf where technique is all that matters , being fast and strong is as important as being technical and that’s a fact
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