AAP L4 appeal

[Anonymous]

My 2nd grade DS has solid test scores across NNAT, COGAT, and iReady. Everything is 99th percentile but my gut feeling is both the teacher ratings and the school samples will be lackluster.

I’m already thinking ahead to appeal.

For those with knowledge, is the school involved in the appeal process or do the parents handle it entirely at that point with new evidence (letter, samples)?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

Appeal is solely between parents and the central committee. School have zero involvement.

[Anonymous]

Loved that there was no school involvement.

[Anonymous]

It actually depends on how high the scores are (apart from being 99 percentile). If the scores are high enough, like 140+ in CoGAT, then you have a strong case here. You could just wait and see the result before doing anything about appealing. However one thing you could do in advance is to schedule a WISC test. It helps you understand your kid's strengths and weaknesses in terms of IQ, even though your son gets in and don't need to appeal anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 2nd grade DS has solid test scores across NNAT, COGAT, and iReady. Everything is 99th percentile but my gut feeling is both the teacher ratings and the school samples will be lackluster.

I’m already thinking ahead to appeal.

For those with knowledge, is the school involved in the appeal process or do the parents handle it entirely at that point with new evidence (letter, samples)?

Thanks

similar boat and I have th same expectation - i am not expecting a great HOPE form, and our 2nd grade teacher has been on mat leave for majority of the year. The sub has been quite underwhelming tbh

[Anonymous]

If your child’s appeal gets denied in 2nd grade and tries again in 3rd grade, is that considered a new application (school submits new packet with new teacher ratings, work samples, etc) or another appeal (family submits new packet with no school involvement)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your child’s appeal gets denied in 2nd grade and tries again in 3rd grade, is that considered a new application (school submits new packet with new teacher ratings, work samples, etc) or another appeal (family submits new packet with no school involvement)?

Yes, this is considered a new application with school input.

[Anonymous]

Ok, thanks for the info. Would they see all the previous packets at that point or is it all brand new information based solely on what’s submitted at that point in time (assuming things like test scores and report cards are all cumulative)?

Just trying to figure out how this all works!

[Anonymous]

Only the current year’s application is viewed at the appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your child’s appeal gets denied in 2nd grade and tries again in 3rd grade, is that considered a new application (school submits new packet with new teacher ratings, work samples, etc) or another appeal (family submits new packet with no school involvement)?

The next year will mirror this process. The initial Package will be supported by the AART/school if you or the school submitted your child, then you can also appeal in the same way now. The only difference is that there is no new NNAT/COGAT (unless you request a 1-time re-test, or pay out of pocket from 3rd party), so there is also no "in-pool" automated selection, so more important for the parent to submit.

[Anonymous]

To be honest, very few candidates get in on appeals under 2nd grade. There is better chance for 3rd or even 4th grade. If your kid doesn't get through the central process in 2nd grade, you should actively investigate principal placement and advanced math especially if you are in a center school.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have data on the success rate for appeals? I feel like I have seen it stated both ways here - super hard and super easy?

[Anonymous]

They are tough on private school children and it is unfair. We still pay education tax in the county and should be considered with an equal chance. Doesn’t 99% testing mean anything anymore?

[Anonymous]

For appeal you need “new information” to help
bolster your case, so be sure to have a new angle on the “why” with other examples to back up your appeal. The “why” might be something like including a short story your kid wrote that you hadn’t included before, a song he composed on the piano after watching some cartoon or a game he made with elaborate rules and if/then scenarios to demonstrate both creativity and logical thinking, or a robotics toy he put together by taking apart an old alarm clock just to see how he could reuse the parts, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are tough on private school children and it is unfair. We still pay education tax in the county and should be considered with an equal chance. Doesn’t 99% testing mean anything anymore?

I've not seen them be hard on private school children, in fact the opposite. In our school, they accommodated kids coming into the school (without testing), placing them in LLIV until they could submit themselves, whereas my child had to go into general Studies after entering from another public G&T program in TX and wasn't given reciprocity.

Also, 99% means something, but it's not a golden ticket. There are too many 99%'s for one to stand out.