Latest Firings (IMPACT): Which Schools?

[Anonymous]

I've clicked through the two threads and am not seeing information on which schools have been hardest hit. Has anyone seen anything on this? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

bump?

[Anonymous]

nothing has been published yet on which schools affected. The school specific DC-CAS scores to be released on Aug 9 (last year they were released a week or more after the deadline) should give a clue as to which schools are more likely to have low scoring students in their classrooms.

[Anonymous]

OP here. (Not 21:33, but thanks for the bump.) I hope this information is out before the primary.

[Anonymous]

If it's like the Fall 2009 RIFs, there will never be a press release about which schools are affected and how. To develop a picture, you'll have to know a school, and piece it together. Mrs. Smith is no longer teaching 4th grade, and come August Mrs. Jones is teaching 4th grade. Why did Mrs. Smith disappear? Moved to the midwest, got a better offer in Md or Va school, or fired as ineffective? The Council may try to have a hearing and ask, but I doubt they'll get very far. Rhee has been appropriately silent when it comes to individual personnel matters.

[Anonymous]

I think the delay in releasing the scores is a problem given NCLB, which says you can transfer your child to a school that is making AYP if your school is "in need of improvement."

The scores in 2007 (for a test that was taken before Rhee arrived) were released in June. Of course they went up that year, but still, August 9th doesn't give parents much time to make plans to switch their child to a different school.

[Anonymous]

I heard from someone in DCPS that the firings averaged 0-1 teacher per school. I would be surprised to see individual schools that have a lot of firings but you never know.

[Anonymous]

OP: why are you asking this question?

[Anonymous]

Arent' there 120 schools, so with 241 firings, the average would have to be 2 teachers per school?

The most common experience might be 0 to 1, but then there are a few schools with 10???

I'm not the OP, but am also interested in the answer to this question. I'm interested in which schools are experiencing the most turnover, and why. I am a DC resident whose children now attend a charter school, but I'm always keeping my eyes open for the next school they may attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP: why are you asking this question?

Not the OP but I'd like to know. It may be that there's an average of 1-2 teachers per school, but it actually defies the laws of probability that every school should receive the same impact (no pun intended). The far more probable alternative is that some schools were affected more and some were affected less. The ones that were affected more are probably not going to pick up their new staff by poaching from Fairfax and MoCo (obviously). Instead they will probably be getting TFA teachers. And as we now know, TFA teachers are less effective. I would certainly like to know if the odds just increased that my child is going to get a TFA teacher instead of a real one.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the new teachers won't even be as good as TFA. They may be long term subs. Long term subs are not subject to any licensing credential checks.

[Anonymous]

7:37 OP here. I want to know if any parts of the city were affected more than others. I think the public deserves to have a breakdown of these firings as well as the data on those on probation (or whatever they call this category). What if we learn that students' socioeconomic status impacted IMPACT?

[Anonymous]

Duh, let me help you here. Most of the firings will have occurred east of 16th St. Who in the hell would want to teach at a hell hole where your personal safety is an issue when your job is on the line? Been there done that. Ballou and schools of that type are very, very difficult and with Rhee breathing down your neck that only makes the job that much more difficult. (Check the percentages)

[Anonymous]

There are many DCPS teachers from schools that were reconstituted that are looking for placements. They are competing with the candidates that are being recruited from outside the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duh, let me help you here. Most of the firings will have occurred east of 16th St. Who in the hell would want to teach at a hell hole where your personal safety is an issue when your job is on the line? Been there done that. Ballou and schools of that type are very, very difficult and with Rhee breathing down your neck that only makes the job that much more difficult. (Check the percentages)

How are you helpful? Some people want to know the impact on their own child's school. You've illuminated exactly nothing other than your own juvenile tendencies.