LLIV Classes

[Anonymous]

My child is at a school with three classes per grade and starting 3rd, one of those classes is LLIV. At a school like this, how many kids in the LLIV class are typically full time LLIV vs principal placed LIII?

And also what happens to kids that are principal placed when they go to middle school? Can they still continue along the advanced math track or do they have to go down a grade level in math and repeat what they learned in 6th?

[Anonymous]

Class makeup is different each school and each class year. For example, our school had 11 IV kids accepted. 11 of them (including mine) opted for the center, leaving a sole IV qualified student in the local school, filled out with other (still highly qualified) students. The year before, the "popular" kid in the class decided to stay, so about half+ of the class was level IV.


In middle school, AAP is generally a separate class, or they can still opt for the center middle school if desired. You'll have an option for open enrollment into an honors version of some subjects (math), which will go at ~the same pace as AAP, but will be filled with gen Ed students. Not sure if this is typical of every school or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Class makeup is different each school and each class year. For example, our school had 11 IV kids accepted. 11 of them (including mine) opted for the center, leaving a sole IV qualified student in the local school, filled out with other (still highly qualified) students. The year before, the "popular" kid in the class decided to stay, so about half+ of the class was level IV.


In middle school, AAP is generally a separate class, or they can still opt for the center middle school if desired. You'll have an option for open enrollment into an honors version of some subjects (math), which will go at ~the same pace as AAP, but will be filled with gen Ed students. Not sure if this is typical of every school or not.

Correction; 11 accepted; 10 transitioned to center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Class makeup is different each school and each class year. For example, our school had 11 IV kids accepted. 11 of them (including mine) opted for the center, leaving a sole IV qualified student in the local school, filled out with other (still highly qualified) students. The year before, the "popular" kid in the class decided to stay, so about half+ of the class was level IV.


In middle school, AAP is generally a separate class, or they can still opt for the center middle school if desired. You'll have an option for open enrollment into an honors version of some subjects (math), which will go at ~the same pace as AAP, but will be filled with gen Ed students. Not sure if this is typical of every school or not.

So if my child is Principal Placed for 4-6, in middle school, they won't be allowed to take AAP, they will have to take Honors, which is the same curriculum? Including advanced math? I Just want to make sure that after three years of accelerated math, they're not being sent down to repeat what they learned in 6th for math.

[Anonymous]

The advanced math track is completely separate from AAP in middle school. If your kid is principal placed into the LLIV in 6th and is doing 6th grade math/advanced math, then they'll take the IAAT and 7th grade math SOL in 6th. Any kid who meets the benchmark, whether a committee placed LIV kid, a principal placed LLIV kid, or a gen ed advanced math kid, will be eligible to take Algebra I Honors in 7th. Everyone else who takes the 7th grade SOL would enroll in Math 7 Honors, which is 8th grade math and takes the 8th grade SOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class makeup is different each school and each class year. For example, our school had 11 IV kids accepted. 11 of them (including mine) opted for the center, leaving a sole IV qualified student in the local school, filled out with other (still highly qualified) students. The year before, the "popular" kid in the class decided to stay, so about half+ of the class was level IV.


In middle school, AAP is generally a separate class, or they can still opt for the center middle school if desired. You'll have an option for open enrollment into an honors version of some subjects (math), which will go at ~the same pace as AAP, but will be filled with gen Ed students. Not sure if this is typical of every school or not.

So if my child is Principal Placed for 4-6, in middle school, they won't be allowed to take AAP, they will have to take Honors, which is the same curriculum? Including advanced math? I Just want to make sure that after three years of accelerated math, they're not being sent down to repeat what they learned in 6th for math.

There is no AAP math. AAP kids take AAP classes for English, Science, and History. Non AAP kids can choose to take Honors English, Science, and History. At some schools, there is no difference between the two. Math is completely separate from AAP in middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class makeup is different each school and each class year. For example, our school had 11 IV kids accepted. 11 of them (including mine) opted for the center, leaving a sole IV qualified student in the local school, filled out with other (still highly qualified) students. The year before, the "popular" kid in the class decided to stay, so about half+ of the class was level IV.


In middle school, AAP is generally a separate class, or they can still opt for the center middle school if desired. You'll have an option for open enrollment into an honors version of some subjects (math), which will go at ~the same pace as AAP, but will be filled with gen Ed students. Not sure if this is typical of every school or not.

So if my child is Principal Placed for 4-6, in middle school, they won't be allowed to take AAP, they will have to take Honors, which is the same curriculum? Including advanced math? I Just want to make sure that after three years of accelerated math, they're not being sent down to repeat what they learned in 6th for math.

There is no AAP math. AAP kids take AAP classes for English, Science, and History. Non AAP kids can choose to take Honors English, Science, and History. At some schools, there is no difference between the two. Math is completely separate from AAP in middle school.

This. I had one in AAP and one in standard honors classes in MS. Math (7H) was exactly the same. Social Studies had one main extension project in AAP (which I found no value in and my standard kid ended up doing in an elective class anyway!) while science and English were fairly similar. They then went on to take almost all the same classes in HS. It levels out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class makeup is different each school and each class year. For example, our school had 11 IV kids accepted. 11 of them (including mine) opted for the center, leaving a sole IV qualified student in the local school, filled out with other (still highly qualified) students. The year before, the "popular" kid in the class decided to stay, so about half+ of the class was level IV.


In middle school, AAP is generally a separate class, or they can still opt for the center middle school if desired. You'll have an option for open enrollment into an honors version of some subjects (math), which will go at ~the same pace as AAP, but will be filled with gen Ed students. Not sure if this is typical of every school or not.

So if my child is Principal Placed for 4-6, in middle school, they won't be allowed to take AAP, they will have to take Honors, which is the same curriculum? Including advanced math? I Just want to make sure that after three years of accelerated math, they're not being sent down to repeat what they learned in 6th for math.

There is no AAP math. AAP kids take AAP classes for English, Science, and History. Non AAP kids can choose to take Honors English, Science, and History. At some schools, there is no difference between the two. Math is completely separate from AAP in middle school.

This depends on the school. I teach sections of AAP algebra 1 to 7th graders, while there are other honors versions of algebra 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child is at a school with three classes per grade and starting 3rd, one of those classes is LLIV. At a school like this, how many kids in the LLIV class are typically full time LLIV vs principal placed LIII?

And also what happens to kids that are principal placed when they go to middle school? Can they still continue along the advanced math track or do they have to go down a grade level in math and repeat what they learned in 6th?

I teach at a LL4. Honestly it varies by year to year, but it can range from 40 percent to 75 percent L4 students. This year my class is about 50 percent L4. Last year it was 75 percent.