Hillandale DC, why?

[Anonymous]

I've always wondered who lives in, and why, Hillandale in DC. Totally not in the market or anything like that.

Who lives in a gated community in the already safe NW DC? If you're an important government official, you already have a security detail!

[Anonymous]

I've had friends who've lived there. I don't think they gravitated because it was gated. I think they found a townhouse there and it happened to be gated.

FYI, don't believe that NW is any safer than any other parts of the city. Still, that's not really why people live there.

[Anonymous]

We’ve lived in Hillandale for a little over a year. We weren’t looking for a gated community but rather a rental in bounds for the DCPS school we wanted. Initially we weren’t crazy about being in a gated community, but it’s not that bad and the house is nice.

[Anonymous]

We live in Georgetown and know several people who live in Hillandale. They are all professionals with high incomes, consultants, WB/IMF etc. Noone picked it because of the gated aspect and need for extra security. They just liked the house, the amenities and that it is a fairly quiet green place with a suburban feel in the middle of the city. One of them jokingly refers to it as a "compound". Everyone seems to like living there.

[Anonymous]

We have friends who moved there from a gated community in AZ. They wanted a gated community, and this is really the only one in DC proper.

[Anonymous]

Wow, I grew up in upper NW and had no idea that place even existed.

[Anonymous]

This gated community used to be one giant estate:

https://historicsites.dcpreservation.org/items/show/285

https://washingtonlife.com/2012/01/20/inside-homes-great-estates/

This neighborhood is full of nice houses!

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/3916-Georgetown-Ct-NW-20007/home/9937000

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/4005-Highwood-Ct-NW-20007/home/9937423

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We live in Georgetown and know several people who live in Hillandale. They are all professionals with high incomes, consultants, WB/IMF etc. Noone picked it because of the gated aspect and need for extra security. They just liked the house, the amenities and that it is a fairly quiet green place with a suburban feel in the middle of the city. One of them jokingly refers to it as a "compound". Everyone seems to like living there.

I wouldn't put high payed professional and WB/IMF (more so WB) in same sentence. They get paid ok (especially given no income tax) but nothing amazing (especially when you take into account years of experience/age, for example a GG is usually in their mid 40s and start around 132k with 180k midpoint which ain't amazing for that age by any means).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in Georgetown and know several people who live in Hillandale. They are all professionals with high incomes, consultants, WB/IMF etc. Noone picked it because of the gated aspect and need for extra security. They just liked the house, the amenities and that it is a fairly quiet green place with a suburban feel in the middle of the city. One of them jokingly refers to it as a "compound". Everyone seems to like living there.

I wouldn't put high payed professional and WB/IMF (more so WB) in same sentence. They get paid ok (especially given no income tax) but nothing amazing (especially when you take into account years of experience/age, for example a GG is usually in their mid 40s and start around 132k with 180k midpoint which ain't amazing for that age by any means).

These are NET salaries and Fund salaries are higher than that plus there are the generous expat benefits. Me and my DH are in early 40s and not even at managerial grades yet and our HH income is over 500k when converted to gross terms. Managerial grades make significantly more. I would have thought that even in DC this would be considered a high HHI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in Georgetown and know several people who live in Hillandale. They are all professionals with high incomes, consultants, WB/IMF etc. Noone picked it because of the gated aspect and need for extra security. They just liked the house, the amenities and that it is a fairly quiet green place with a suburban feel in the middle of the city. One of them jokingly refers to it as a "compound". Everyone seems to like living there.

I wouldn't put high payed professional and WB/IMF (more so WB) in same sentence. They get paid ok (especially given no income tax) but nothing amazing (especially when you take into account years of experience/age, for example a GG is usually in their mid 40s and start around 132k with 180k midpoint which ain't amazing for that age by any means).

These are NET salaries and Fund salaries are higher than that plus there are the generous expat benefits. Me and my DH are in early 40s and not even at managerial grades yet and our HH income is over 500k when converted to gross terms. Managerial grades make significantly more. I would have thought that even in DC this would be considered a high HHI.

I did say "especially given no income tax" in my post, meaning net so I am taking that into account. But really I stand by my comment especially as it relates to WB. Given the large contingent of STCs as well (who have low pay, unstable jobs, and get exploited constantly) so it is also a two class system, hard to argue high paid.

But even if we focus on staff, career progression grows at a snails pace, takes years to go from E to F, F to G, and then you are pretty much stuck at G. And like I said G net starts at 130k (granted one likely makes more like 150k net at that plus benefits). If you are G you are likely in your mid 40s or later (more of an observation rather than actual empirically sound evidence) and you will be stuck there for a while, if you work private (say consulting) and you are mid 40, you are making way more than 150 net.

Now if we were talking about compensation per hour, then that's another thing, as many people at these places (especially WB and IDB) work way less than 40 hours per week. So from that perspective (per hour) yeah it's pretty good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in Georgetown and know several people who live in Hillandale. They are all professionals with high incomes, consultants, WB/IMF etc. Noone picked it because of the gated aspect and need for extra security. They just liked the house, the amenities and that it is a fairly quiet green place with a suburban feel in the middle of the city. One of them jokingly refers to it as a "compound". Everyone seems to like living there.

I wouldn't put high payed professional and WB/IMF (more so WB) in same sentence. They get paid ok (especially given no income tax) but nothing amazing (especially when you take into account years of experience/age, for example a GG is usually in their mid 40s and start around 132k with 180k midpoint which ain't amazing for that age by any means).

These are NET salaries and Fund salaries are higher than that plus there are the generous expat benefits. Me and my DH are in early 40s and not even at managerial grades yet and our HH income is over 500k when converted to gross terms. Managerial grades make significantly more. I would have thought that even in DC this would be considered a high HHI.

I did say "especially given no income tax" in my post, meaning net so I am taking that into account. But really I stand by my comment especially as it relates to WB. Given the large contingent of STCs as well (who have low pay, unstable jobs, and get exploited constantly) so it is also a two class system, hard to argue high paid.

But even if we focus on staff, career progression grows at a snails pace, takes years to go from E to F, F to G, and then you are pretty much stuck at G. And like I said G net starts at 130k (granted one likely makes more like 150k net at that plus benefits). If you are G you are likely in your mid 40s or later (more of an observation rather than actual empirically sound evidence) and you will be stuck there for a while, if you work private (say consulting) and you are mid 40, you are making way more than 150 net.

Now if we were talking about compensation per hour, then that's another thing, as many people at these places (especially WB and IDB) work way less than 40 hours per week. So from that perspective (per hour) yeah it's pretty good.

Well, maybe you should have read what I said initially. The people I know have actually high incomes and are not STCs. Not sure why this is turning into a discussion on the WB compensation system and crappy career prospects. There are people who have very high salaries at this institutions and some of those happen to live in Hillandale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in Georgetown and know several people who live in Hillandale. They are all professionals with high incomes, consultants, WB/IMF etc. Noone picked it because of the gated aspect and need for extra security. They just liked the house, the amenities and that it is a fairly quiet green place with a suburban feel in the middle of the city. One of them jokingly refers to it as a "compound". Everyone seems to like living there.

I wouldn't put high payed professional and WB/IMF (more so WB) in same sentence. They get paid ok (especially given no income tax) but nothing amazing (especially when you take into account years of experience/age, for example a GG is usually in their mid 40s and start around 132k with 180k midpoint which ain't amazing for that age by any means).

These are NET salaries and Fund salaries are higher than that plus there are the generous expat benefits. Me and my DH are in early 40s and not even at managerial grades yet and our HH income is over 500k when converted to gross terms. Managerial grades make significantly more. I would have thought that even in DC this would be considered a high HHI.

Oh no! Someone thinks your job is not very impressive! Good thing you were here to explain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We live in Georgetown and know several people who live in Hillandale. They are all professionals with high incomes, consultants, WB/IMF etc. Noone picked it because of the gated aspect and need for extra security. They just liked the house, the amenities and that it is a fairly quiet green place with a suburban feel in the middle of the city. One of them jokingly refers to it as a "compound". Everyone seems to like living there.

I wouldn't put high payed professional and WB/IMF (more so WB) in same sentence. They get paid ok (especially given no income tax) but nothing amazing (especially when you take into account years of experience/age, for example a GG is usually in their mid 40s and start around 132k with 180k midpoint which ain't amazing for that age by any means).

These are NET salaries and Fund salaries are higher than that plus there are the generous expat benefits. Me and my DH are in early 40s and not even at managerial grades yet and our HH income is over 500k when converted to gross terms. Managerial grades make significantly more. I would have thought that even in DC this would be considered a high HHI.

Oh no! Someone thinks your job is not very impressive! Good thing you were here to explain.

lol, I do not consider it impressive myself and also find it sad to judge a job purely by how much it pays. I was just explaining what kind of numbers people could actually be pulling out of these unimpressive jobs.