
Ryan and Blake’s supporters are not real. As soon as the money spigot is turned off, they will all disappear. Justin and the other victims aren’t paying any shills and bot farms, they have organic support. |
lolol |
I remember how a few years ago everyone thought Amber Heard was a lousy scammer who “wasn’t a real victim” and was just out to ruin Johnny Depp.
Now everyone and their dog seems to understand that Heard was correct and was just the victim of an untraceable PR campaign, coincidentally orchestrated by the same crisis PR team that male feminist Justin Baldoni hired here. So good luck with that and all of the ridiculous hate and misogynistic victim blaming you have spread in this thread. |
Um, the public still thinks she was a hoaxer gold digging scammer. Depp rightfully has his career back. |
Does he really, though? He's only been in that French film since all that happened and nobody has been beating down his door. https://brightside.me/articles/johnny-depps-net-worth-how-famous-pirate-become-the-most-overpaid-actor-in-hollywood-816908/#:~:text=According%20to%20sources%20like%20Celebrity,%24650%20million%20over%2013%20years. He has some new movie coming out, but I'll pass. I think he has been begging Disney to let him back into the Pirates franchise, as I'm sure he misses the cash (he has spent his fortune of hundreds of millions of dollars down exponentially). Sad. |
This case bears zero resemblance to the Heard case. |
ORLY? * Same constant denigration here of the woman alleging she was SH; * Same portrayal of female accuser here as mentally fragile but also emotionally manipulative slut who slept her way to success and is just trying to amass money and power to herself; * Same defamation suit filed by male accused which is designed to point blame at female accuser; * Drama is kept alive 24/7 by reddit and social media and stories in the tabloids; * Male accused hires same crisis PR firm (what a coincidence!). |
Jed Wallace dropped his claim for a declaratory judgement in the Texas case. Yet somehow no one is blaming his lawyers of not having planned out the lawsuit properly or being a terrible lawyer. Weird. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.276.0.pdf |
You can’t see the difference between a domestic violence case involving ones romantic partner and a sexual harassment case against multiple defendants primarily based on what onewas asked or not asked to wear in a birthing scene and comments about a dead dad? |
If he dropping it to avoid producing medical evidence in response to a motion to compel? That’s the difference. |
* Constant minimization of the female accuser's allegations and refusal to believe they happened. |
DP. Actually you don’t need to ‘prove’ damages at all. You show some info, but the jury decides. You think hulk hogan proved he was damager for $100+ m over a video of him having sex when he constantly bragged about his sexual prowess? You need to educate yourself bc most of what you say is just dead wrong |
I am a real person who supports Blake's claims. I wouldn't say I'm a "Ryan and Blake" supporter -- I don't really care about them as actors or celebs. But I think what she's alleging likely happened and that it's not right for a woman to be treated that way on a film set by a director. I am a survivor of workplace harassment and sexual assault, and have worked as an advocate for SA/SH survivors since then (through the same organization where I found solace when I was dealing with PTSD from my experience). I don't think Blake's experience is the worst example of SH I've ever heard of, far from it, and certainly she's better resourced and supported than the vast majority of survivors. But that's a reason to support her, not to dismiss her. Most survivors don't have the means or support system to get justice. I didn't -- I quit my job, dealt with my harasser saying negative things about me to former colleagues and preemptively calling me a liar and criticizing my mental health to pre-empt me coming forward with allegations, went into a different industry, got therapy, and moved on. It was unsatisfying but the best outcome for me, as I know trying to sue would have been horrible to go through and I didn't have a good support system at the time. But that makes it all the more important for people who are in a position to litigate, and who can deal with the inevitable character attacks and expenses, to do so. FTR, if it came out that it was all a lie and that Baldoni was great on set and she made up all these allegations, I will retract my support. But right now I believe her and would like to hear from witnesses and hear both Baldoni and Lively testify. I think she'll be proven truthful in the end, I just hope people listen to her. |
DP but that's what it means to "prove" damages -- you convince a jury that the damages are justified. Hogan proved to the jury that the embarrassment and invasion of privacy from having that video come out was worth $140 million. I disagree, but I wasn't on that jury. I'm guessing they appealed to how the jurors themselves would feel if a similar video of them was made public. |