NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets

[Anonymous]

$15 for entrance for family cars. $24 for moving vans. Maybe time to start walking...

[Anonymous]

Oh and they're saying its a Jersey tax

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/29/nyc-congestion-pricing-commute-new-jersey-00129248

[Anonymous]

New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.

People will remember. But who cares. Agree with all other points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.

I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.

I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.

Might I suggest that if you live in the zone, you don't need a car?

[Anonymous]

So does this add $15 to cab/uber fares within the zone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.

I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.

Might I suggest that if you live in the zone, you don't need a car?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$15 for entrance for family cars. $24 for moving vans. Maybe time to start walking...

Is this for rush hours am/pm or 24/7?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$15 for entrance for family cars. $24 for moving vans. Maybe time to start walking...

Is this for rush hours am/pm or 24/7?

5 am to 9 pm on weekdays, 9 am to 9 pm weekends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So does this add $15 to cab/uber fares within the zone?

The maximum congestion pricing surcharge will be $1.50 for taxi riders and $2.75 for Uber and Lyft riders entering or traveling within the zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So does this add $15 to cab/uber fares within the zone?

Uber/Lyft, medallion taxis, limos, black cars, etc. have already paid congestion surcharges since 2019:

$2.75 for surcharge in a vehicle that is not a medallion taxicab or a pool vehicle
$2.50 surcharge when the transportation is provided by a medallion taxicab vehicle
$0.75 for each pool trip (ie., Super Shuttle or other airport shuttles, UberPool rides, etc.)

https://www.tax.ny.gov/bus/cs/csidx.htm

It appears that this new congestion fee (which only applies below 60th Street in Manhattan) would add a new supplemental geography based congestion fee and it only applies during certain hours (M-F 5am-9am, Sat & Sun 9am-9pm)

$1.25 surcharge for medallion taxis. So now the total fees are $3.75 ($2.50 congestion surcharge + $1.25 additional congestion surcharge for below 60th Street)
$2.50 surcharge for other vehicles, including Uber/Lyft. So now the total fees are $5.25 ($2.75 congestion surcharge + $2.50 additional congestion surcharge for below 60th Street)

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-congestion-pricing-commuters-pay-tolls-taxis-discounts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.

I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.

Might I suggest that if you live in the zone, you don't need a car?

Might I suggest that you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about and that people can decide for themselves what they need, particularly if they are disabled or have a disabled family member, small kids, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.

I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.

Might I suggest that if you live in the zone, you don't need a car?

Might I suggest that you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about and that people can decide for themselves what they need, particularly if they are disabled or have a disabled family member, small kids, etc.

Disabled get accomodations.

You can need whatever you want, and pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$15 for entrance for family cars. $24 for moving vans. Maybe time to start walking...

Is this for rush hours am/pm or 24/7?

Where do they mention moving vans? What about delivery vans? I think there should be some kind of intelligent system to club together all the deliveries in the zone on a day and get those vans in and out at a priority.