Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC homicides up year to date despite lockdown. There's only so much murder a city can have before UMC folks strongly consider suburb options

If there's no demand, then the developers won't build. Problem solved!

Or we could leave the perfectly good, existing Comp Plan in place and send OP’s proposal back for a rewrite on view of the pandemic impact on city planning. This is what the Committee of 100 on the Federal City advocates.

And problem solved!

[Anonymous]

It is so super easy. Density is really the result of commute to work and places of gatherings.

All we need to do is to distribute them evenly and utilize our beautiful endless green areas that surround big cities all the way
up to the gray horizon.

If we get away with offices and switch to telecommute, build more schools and cool town centers then we solved the problem.

The question is do we want to solve the problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is so super easy. Density is really the result of commute to work and places of gatherings.

All we need to do is to distribute them evenly and utilize our beautiful endless green areas that surround big cities all the way
up to the gray horizon.

If we get away with offices and switch to telecommute, build more schools and cool town centers then we solved the problem.

The question is do we want to solve the problem?

Please don't! We have enough sprawl already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

Not in Crestwood and the side streets of Mr Pleasant. The mayor and her planning office are proposing more restrictions in these attractive parts of Ward 4 (“protect neighborhood character”), even as they erode restrictions on big development elsewhere.

Again, for the 50th time in this thread, no changes are proposed in the Comp Plan to any single family zones.

This is true in Wards 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8.

This is true in Crestwood, Mt Pleasant, Cleveland Park, Tenleytown etc.

This is true in the Mayors ward and every other ward of the city.

BTW Mt Pleasant is in Ward 1.

Whoever this is, we were simply asking a question of the PP. Stop being so defensive. They are talking about actual SFH's potentially being converted. If that is true, that would be worth hearing.

On and as far as your claim the comp plan proposes no changes, this thread has already proven that a factually inaccurate statement. So unless you have some evidence to the contrary, all of the evidence thus far has illustrated that the Comp Plan does in fact make changes. Andrew Trueblood has said as much. Again, his quotes are here in the last few pages.

Nope it does not - please provide a citation of proposed changes in the Comp Plan to any single family zone in the city. Citing someone else on this thread making that claim without citations does not count.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is all very weird. "Increasing density" is the same thing as gentrification. And "gentle upscaling"? Is that a joke? These terms are all so Orwellian. It's all just gentrification. Call it what it is, instead of making up new names for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is all very weird. "Increasing density" is the same thing as gentrification. And "gentle upscaling"? Is that a joke? These terms are all so Orwellian. It's all just gentrification. Call it what it is, instead of making up new names for it.

Are you responding to one of your own posts again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC homicides up year to date despite lockdown. There's only so much murder a city can have before UMC folks strongly consider suburb options

If there's no demand, then the developers won't build. Problem solved!

Or we could leave the perfectly good, existing Comp Plan in place and send OP’s proposal back for a rewrite on view of the pandemic impact on city planning. This is what the Committee of 100 on the Federal City advocates.

The Committee of 100 also, as I recall, had conniptions about the unsightliness of overhead wires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is all very weird. "Increasing density" is the same thing as gentrification. And "gentle upscaling"? Is that a joke? These terms are all so Orwellian. It's all just gentrification. Call it what it is, instead of making up new names for it.

No one wants to admit they're in favor of gentrification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is all very weird. "Increasing density" is the same thing as gentrification. And "gentle upscaling"? Is that a joke? These terms are all so Orwellian. It's all just gentrification. Call it what it is, instead of making up new names for it.

Who will save Cleveland Park from Gentrification?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is all very weird. "Increasing density" is the same thing as gentrification. And "gentle upscaling"? Is that a joke? These terms are all so Orwellian. It's all just gentrification. Call it what it is, instead of making up new names for it.

Who will save Cleveland Park from Gentrification?

Bless your heart. Sweetie, you're focusing on the wrong place. No one cares about Cleveland Park, which will be just fine. You should really be looking at the rest of the city.

"In the District, low-income residents are being pushed out of neighborhoods at some of the highest rates in the country, according to the Institute on Metropolitan Opportunity, which sought to track demographic and economic changes in neighborhoods in the 50 largest U.S. cities from 2000 to 2016....

In portions of the Kingman Park and Capitol Hill neighborhoods, nearly 75 percent of the low-income populations have vanished, census information shows. In the Navy Yard neighborhood, about 77 percent of residents were identified as low income in 2000. Sixteen years later, that population dropped to 21 percent.

Most of the people pushed out of these economic hot spots are black and low income, according to the data."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-the-district-gentrification-means-widespread-displacement-report-says/2019/04/26/950a0c00-6775-11e9-8985-4cf30147bdca_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is obviously not true. Unless you're in Ward 3 or a few other wealthy areas, zoning rules in DC are extremely loose. And the city does a terrible job enforcing what few rules they are. DCRA almost always sides with developers, as do city council members like Brandon Todd, who build his career on carrying water for real estate developers. The entire system is built to favor developers over everyone else. A big reason Todd lost is because people in Ward 4 are sick of developers.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is obviously not true. Unless you're in Ward 3 or a few other wealthy areas, zoning rules in DC are extremely loose. And the city does a terrible job enforcing what few rules they are. DCRA almost always sides with developers, as do city council members like Brandon Todd, who build his career on carrying water for real estate developers. The entire system is built to favor developers over everyone else. A big reason Todd lost is because people in Ward 4 are sick of developers.

+1

That's weird - the smart growth (and biking crowd) were enthusiastic about Janeese George. FWIW on my Ward 4 email list most people just found Todd to be a complete lightweight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is obviously not true. Unless you're in Ward 3 or a few other wealthy areas, zoning rules in DC are extremely loose. And the city does a terrible job enforcing what few rules they are. DCRA almost always sides with developers, as do city council members like Brandon Todd, who build his career on carrying water for real estate developers. The entire system is built to favor developers over everyone else. A big reason Todd lost is because people in Ward 4 are sick of developers.

+1

That's weird - the smart growth (and biking crowd) were enthusiastic about Janeese George. FWIW on my Ward 4 email list most people just found Todd to be a complete lightweight.

George is anti-developer. She made that clear.

[Anonymous]

Hi, I'm a Ward 4 biking (maybe smart growth?) person. I don't think you're framing it right. The problem with Brandon Todd is that he is corrupt. Taking money from developers and then giving them what they want. The people who lose out tend to be poor and black long time residents of DC.

Janeese ran an independent campaign. So she has no reason to bend over backwards for developers. They'll make their money, although probably not as much, but in a way that really benefits DC residents not just political campaigns. Smart growth combined with someone looking out for the people of DC doesn't have to lead to displacement.

For example, I think Janeese talked about developing an underutilized parking lot to create more housing, including affordable housing. Instead of displacement, it would increase the ability for low/middle income residents to live in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 4 making a big statement against developers with Brandon Todd's defeat. No one was more pro-developer than Todd.

This is interesting news. Ward 4 was already very sheltered because of the Mayor. That and they have the huge Walter Reed campus which can absorb development. Still trying to figure out how Howard Medical did not land any of that land. They probably wanted to be closer downtown.

This is not true at all. They are building condos everywhere. A big reason why Ward 4 will soon majority white.

Where in Ward 4 are they building condos, except for the Walter Reed development?

OMG. Drive up Georgia avenue. Look at all the dumpsters in front of single-family homes being gutted for condos. Turn on the TV. There are constant ads from developers offering to buy people's homes. The ads are unabashedly targeted at black homeowners -- no one in the ads considering selling their home is ever white.

I am not in Ward 4. With the current zoning rules, how are single family homes being turned into condos? The Density Bros/Bras keep swearing to us that this is IMPOSSIBLE under the current structure and under the new comp plan.

Also, once the gentle upscaling starts, it is specifically designed to protect AGAINST gentrification.

Seriously, I'd like to know if your statement is hyperbole or if there are SFH's being 'upzoned'.

Thanks

This is obviously not true. Unless you're in Ward 3 or a few other wealthy areas, zoning rules in DC are extremely loose. And the city does a terrible job enforcing what few rules they are. DCRA almost always sides with developers, as do city council members like Brandon Todd, who build his career on carrying water for real estate developers. The entire system is built to favor developers over everyone else. A big reason Todd lost is because people in Ward 4 are sick of developers.

+1

That's weird - the smart growth (and biking crowd) were enthusiastic about Janeese George. FWIW on my Ward 4 email list most people just found Todd to be a complete lightweight.

George is anti-developer. She made that clear.

Really - when?

George is enthusiastic about urbanism and understands where current policies fall short. Her responses to our questionnaire were thorough, and directly addressed topics like building more housing in wealthy parts of the city. She wrote: “If we continue to allow individual neighborhoods to block development or opt-out of upzoning it will exacerbate racial disparity.”

Sounds like she may not be the Councilmember to spare Cleveland Park from gentrification.