Scores on Cogat to get in AAP?

[Anonymous]

Range typically accepted?

[Anonymous]

Each school is different.

If you search this forum, kids with scores all over the place. The score is one of many things they look at.

[Anonymous]

132 used to be the magic number to automatically be "in pool". Then about 2/3 of those kids got accepted.

Nowadays pool placement depends on your base school. Some have cutoffs in the high 120s, others above 140. You can always parent refer, regardless of score.

[Anonymous]

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BPLQKV69B096/$file/FCPS%20final%20report%2005.05.20.pdf

The AAP equity report gives a lot of data on the scores for the 2018/2019 2nd grade cohort. See pages 66-67 in particular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:132 used to be the magic number to automatically be "in pool". Then about 2/3 of those kids got accepted.

Nowadays pool placement depends on your base school. Some have cutoffs in the high 120s, others above 140. You can always parent refer, regardless of score.

your scores are from NNAT, not CogAT. CogAT has nine stannine calculated from raw score, 96% and above is 9 being highest, 89%-95% becomes 8. Anything below probably is not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:132 used to be the magic number to automatically be "in pool". Then about 2/3 of those kids got accepted.

Nowadays pool placement depends on your base school. Some have cutoffs in the high 120s, others above 140. You can always parent refer, regardless of score.

your scores are from NNAT, not CogAT. CogAT has nine stannine calculated from raw score, 96% and above is 9 being highest, 89%-95% becomes 8. Anything below probably is not good.

DP. AAP looks at percentile rather than stanine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:132 used to be the magic number to automatically be "in pool". Then about 2/3 of those kids got accepted.

Nowadays pool placement depends on your base school. Some have cutoffs in the high 120s, others above 140. You can always parent refer, regardless of score.

your scores are from NNAT, not CogAT. CogAT has nine stannine calculated from raw score, 96% and above is 9 being highest, 89%-95% becomes 8. Anything below probably is not good.

Previous poster is likely referring to the composite score of COGAT, which is a numerical score just like the NNAT, and what most people on the forum tend to list when it comes to specifying the COGAT score.

For the OP, if you're relying on the test, and not glorification from your school's teacher/panel, you likely want to be above 132+ composite score to be competitive, but the individual scores need to also substantiate skills in both math/Language arts, else they'll just consider level III push-ins to be acceptable. 140's are generally (not always) shoo-ins. We had 136 NNAT/136 COGAT, and were NOT in pool in the Chantilly Pyramid, but parent referred and were accepted. DC had VERY high math, and middling reading COGAT scores, so our package and samples were largely based on supporting the reading/writing strengths.

[Anonymous]

Is there any data available on cutoffs by school? Obviously a guaranteed in-pool score will vary by school...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there any data available on cutoffs by school? Obviously a guaranteed in-pool score will vary by school...

No. That would promote transparency in the review and selection process which would undermined FCPS’s ability to manage the program as they wish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there any data available on cutoffs by school? Obviously a guaranteed in-pool score will vary by school...

No. Also, In-pool only means a packet is automatically created, not that your child is guaranteed acceptance into the program. This local shift is only 2-yrs old but higher SES in-pool scores are typically above 140.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:132 used to be the magic number to automatically be "in pool". Then about 2/3 of those kids got accepted.

Nowadays pool placement depends on your base school. Some have cutoffs in the high 120s, others above 140. You can always parent refer, regardless of score.

your scores are from NNAT, not CogAT. CogAT has nine stannine calculated from raw score, 96% and above is 9 being highest, 89%-95% becomes 8. Anything below probably is not good.

Previous poster is likely referring to the composite score of COGAT, which is a numerical score just like the NNAT, and what most people on the forum tend to list when it comes to specifying the COGAT score.

For the OP, if you're relying on the test, and not glorification from your school's teacher/panel, you likely want to be above 132+ composite score to be competitive, but the individual scores need to also substantiate skills in both math/Language arts, else they'll just consider level III push-ins to be acceptable. 140's are generally (not always) shoo-ins. We had 136 NNAT/136 COGAT, and were NOT in pool in the Chantilly Pyramid, but parent referred and were accepted. DC had VERY high math, and middling reading COGAT scores, so our package and samples were largely based on supporting the reading/writing strengths.

For a few years all you needed was a 132 in any of the CoGAT areas to be in-pool or on the NNAT. So a 132 in verbal or non-verbal or quant or composite and you would be in-pool. There were kids with higher Quant scores who had lower verbal and non-verbal scores and not hit a 132 composite that would be in-pool. Normally those kids would end up with Advanced Math and not in LIV but they were still in-pool.

In-pool simply meant that you were automatically considered and they were looking to include as many kids as they could in-pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any data available on cutoffs by school? Obviously a guaranteed in-pool score will vary by school...

No. Also, In-pool only means a packet is automatically created, not that your child is guaranteed acceptance into the program. This local shift is only 2-yrs old but higher SES in-pool scores are typically above 140.

Should one move to a more moderate SES school to increase their odds of being in pool? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any data available on cutoffs by school? Obviously a guaranteed in-pool score will vary by school...

No. Also, In-pool only means a packet is automatically created, not that your child is guaranteed acceptance into the program. This local shift is only 2-yrs old but higher SES in-pool scores are typically above 140.

Should one move to a more moderate SES school to increase their odds of being in pool? Asking for a friend.

Feels excessive but I’m sure someone will do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any data available on cutoffs by school? Obviously a guaranteed in-pool score will vary by school...

No. Also, In-pool only means a packet is automatically created, not that your child is guaranteed acceptance into the program. This local shift is only 2-yrs old but higher SES in-pool scores are typically above 140.

Should one move to a more moderate SES school to increase their odds of being in pool? Asking for a friend.

Feels excessive but I’m sure someone will do it.

Feels excessive but the incentive is there. You can't stop people from going after what they feel is best for their kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any data available on cutoffs by school? Obviously a guaranteed in-pool score will vary by school...

No. Also, In-pool only means a packet is automatically created, not that your child is guaranteed acceptance into the program. This local shift is only 2-yrs old but higher SES in-pool scores are typically above 140.

Should one move to a more moderate SES school to increase their odds of being in pool? Asking for a friend.

Being in the pool doesn't guarantee admission. Also AAP is not TJ, there is no fixed percentage to be admitted.