Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:So did FCPS teachers resign like crazy as anticipated months ago? Are the number of FCPS teacher resignations and their resignation reasons publicly available somewhere?


There are a ton of vacancies and no resumes coming in. We have had a posting at our school since Feb and still not filled.


Watch the language when they describe vacancies. When counties say "staffed" or "provisional", or use any term other than teacher, they are usually trying to distract from the fact that they have hired warm bodies with no license or relevant experience. So the vacancy numbers may appear to be low, but the number of qualified teachers has significantly declined.


I am PP. We have two ES openings since Feb that have yet to be filled by anyone.


We have 7 or 8 special education positions unfilled and an upper elementary, a K, and lower elementary unfilled. I’ve heard that a memo has gone out to central office staff again this year to anticipate being pulled into schools.


Good. They should.


We had some central office employees at my school when they year began. They were not qualified, unprepared, and unexcited. I felt bad for the classes they were assigned to.



They weren’t certified teachers? Most of the central office staff were teachers looking to get out of the classroom. They aren’t moving payroll people.
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Anonymous wrote:So did FCPS teachers resign like crazy as anticipated months ago? Are the number of FCPS teacher resignations and their resignation reasons publicly available somewhere?


There are a ton of vacancies and no resumes coming in. We have had a posting at our school since Feb and still not filled.


Watch the language when they describe vacancies. When counties say "staffed" or "provisional", or use any term other than teacher, they are usually trying to distract from the fact that they have hired warm bodies with no license or relevant experience. So the vacancy numbers may appear to be low, but the number of qualified teachers has significantly declined.


I am PP. We have two ES openings since Feb that have yet to be filled by anyone.


We have 7 or 8 special education positions unfilled and an upper elementary, a K, and lower elementary unfilled. I’ve heard that a memo has gone out to central office staff again this year to anticipate being pulled into schools.


Good. They should.


We had some central office employees at my school when they year began. They were not qualified, unprepared, and unexcited. I felt bad for the classes they were assigned to.


They weren’t certified teachers? Most of the central office staff were teachers looking to get out of the classroom. They aren’t moving payroll people.


An old HS Spanish teacher was teaching 1st grade. The other went to school to teach but never went into the classroom.
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Office support staff in schools are usually there in summer and make less for year round work. A lot of teachers would quit if they had to work in summer even if their pay went up for those 2/2.5 months of working summer. I think teachers who’ve also worked in corporate with only two weeks PTO get it. Teachers who have only ever worked as teachers usually don’t understand it’s a perk. There’s downsides to teaching for sure, but every job has some.

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently some of the central office workers were told today that their partial WFH privileges are revoked for next year. FCPS continues to become a worse place to work. It’s like they are making decisions to contribute to vacancies rather than support their current employees.


Why would they need to only partially work in the office? Surely it’s not still due to Covid.


Why does anyone? Quality of life, job satisfaction, etc.

I’m a teacher and never cared one bit if someone who can do their office role from home worked from home. Enough school based staff fussed that everyone has to come back for optics now. Unless they have proof productivity dropped, this is dumb. They could save a lot of money if they stopped leasing willow oaks.


Right. I get that. So, that was my question. Why have they been partially in the office if it could all be done from a remote location? Perhaps it has been optics.


As a teacher, I have absolutely no problem with them working from home except that they specifically said I cannot, on teacher workdays when I do not have in person meetings or trainings. So, some employees can work from home, but others must be on site even when it is unnecessary? They can do virtual trainings from home but I can't be trusted to do so? That is my issue.


And some workers get summers off, spring break and winter breaks and others don't?
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Anonymous wrote:So did FCPS teachers resign like crazy as anticipated months ago? Are the number of FCPS teacher resignations and their resignation reasons publicly available somewhere?


There are a ton of vacancies and no resumes coming in. We have had a posting at our school since Feb and still not filled.


We have at least 3 positions that opened since school ended because the teachers got central office jobs and several others are in the pools to be coaches or SBTS. Several Sped teachers have moved into general Ed in their content area, so sped is going to be a real issue next year.

I’m still waiting for all these keyboard warriors who claim teachers get paid too much to do little/no work to come join us but they never seem to step up…


Some of us have kids and jobs. You can't just pick up and move professions like that when your family needs stability. There are people thinking of moving to a lower cost area so they could be more involved or teach, but you aren't going to get a lot of parents who are already stressed with school and kids and living here opting to just make a 180 degree turn. There are easier options to consider.
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I looked up my schools on the job posting page and there are almost no openings.
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Anonymous wrote:So did FCPS teachers resign like crazy as anticipated months ago? Are the number of FCPS teacher resignations and their resignation reasons publicly available somewhere?


There are a ton of vacancies and no resumes coming in. We have had a posting at our school since Feb and still not filled.


Watch the language when they describe vacancies. When counties say "staffed" or "provisional", or use any term other than teacher, they are usually trying to distract from the fact that they have hired warm bodies with no license or relevant experience. So the vacancy numbers may appear to be low, but the number of qualified teachers has significantly declined.


I am PP. We have two ES openings since Feb that have yet to be filled by anyone.


We have 7 or 8 special education positions unfilled and an upper elementary, a K, and lower elementary unfilled. I’ve heard that a memo has gone out to central office staff again this year to anticipate being pulled into schools.


Good. They should.


We had some central office employees at my school when they year began. They were not qualified, unprepared, and unexcited. I felt bad for the classes they were assigned to.



They weren’t certified teachers? Most of the central office staff were teachers looking to get out of the classroom. They aren’t moving payroll people.


We had one of these central folks at my HS last year. This person was an ES teacher originally, had never taught HS and hadn’t been in any classroom in many years. So yes, there was a “certified teacher” in the class but it was a disaster (which should also give pause regarding those who are making all the decisions from afar).
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Anonymous wrote:So did FCPS teachers resign like crazy as anticipated months ago? Are the number of FCPS teacher resignations and their resignation reasons publicly available somewhere?


There are a ton of vacancies and no resumes coming in. We have had a posting at our school since Feb and still not filled.


We have at least 3 positions that opened since school ended because the teachers got central office jobs and several others are in the pools to be coaches or SBTS. Several Sped teachers have moved into general Ed in their content area, so sped is going to be a real issue next year.

I’m still waiting for all these keyboard warriors who claim teachers get paid too much to do little/no work to come join us but they never seem to step up…


Some of us have kids and jobs. You can't just pick up and move professions like that when your family needs stability. There are people thinking of moving to a lower cost area so they could be more involved or teach, but you aren't going to get a lot of parents who are already stressed with school and kids and living here opting to just make a 180 degree turn. There are easier options to consider.


Well then perhaps y’all should consider that before spouting off about how easy teachers have it and how anyone could do their jobs?
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Anonymous wrote:I looked up my schools on the job posting page and there are almost no openings.



Okay. But there are other schools with openings and no one applying. That means a lot of kids without a certified teacher.
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Anonymous wrote:I looked up my schools on the job posting page and there are almost no openings.


Our local elementary appears to only have three openings but I happen to know each listing has 2-3 vacancies.
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Anonymous wrote:So did FCPS teachers resign like crazy as anticipated months ago? Are the number of FCPS teacher resignations and their resignation reasons publicly available somewhere?


There are a ton of vacancies and no resumes coming in. We have had a posting at our school since Feb and still not filled.


We have at least 3 positions that opened since school ended because the teachers got central office jobs and several others are in the pools to be coaches or SBTS. Several Sped teachers have moved into general Ed in their content area, so sped is going to be a real issue next year.

I’m still waiting for all these keyboard warriors who claim teachers get paid too much to do little/no work to come join us but they never seem to step up…


Some of us have kids and jobs. You can't just pick up and move professions like that when your family needs stability. There are people thinking of moving to a lower cost area so they could be more involved or teach, but you aren't going to get a lot of parents who are already stressed with school and kids and living here opting to just make a 180 degree turn. There are easier options to consider.


Well then perhaps y’all should consider that before spouting off about how easy teachers have it and how anyone could do their jobs?


+1, if their lives were in fact so stressful than a nice easy job like teaching should be a great fit. Any moron can do it and they only work 7 hours a day!
(Sarcasm)
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Anonymous wrote:I looked up my schools on the job posting page and there are almost no openings.



Okay. But there are other schools with openings and no one applying. That means a lot of kids without a certified teacher.


AAH but this parent doesn't care about your kid....just theirs. You have to love NoVA! "I got mine"
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Anonymous wrote:I looked up my schools on the job posting page and there are almost no openings.


If you looked at my school it looks like only a few openings but there is only 1 listing for multiple vacancies. One sped listing, 6 vacancies. One 4-6 listing, 3 vacancies. One 1-3 listing, 2 vacancies. So 3 listings, but 11 vacancies.
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Anonymous wrote:I looked up my schools on the job posting page and there are almost no openings.
Before the school year ended, my school had a ton of openings, but you would never know because they cleverly disguised it using one very vague, catchall ad. I know because I work there. Don’t judge based on what you’re seeing online.
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Anonymous wrote:I looked up my schools on the job posting page and there are almost no openings.


If you looked at my school it looks like only a few openings but there is only 1 listing for multiple vacancies. One sped listing, 6 vacancies. One 4-6 listing, 3 vacancies. One 1-3 listing, 2 vacancies. So 3 listings, but 11 vacancies.


Yep, my school does this too. Last year, we ended up with a few unfilled spots (which has never been an issue in the past). All of them in special ed. This year, they are pushing more and more kids with IEP's that require self contained rooms into gen ed rooms. There just aren't teachers with the correct certification and they don't want to do a revolving door of subs. This info got out and a few more teachers decided to quit or retire instead of having to deal with that mess.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s rough. Teachers are at their breaking point. To those of you blaming the school board, you can go fly a kite. This is happening all over the country. It’s not an FCPS thing. Colleagues went to a job fair at UVA last week. There were school districts from Texas there vying for the handful of teacher candidates.

—an overwhelmed principal


You pretend you are overwhelmed but it’s you that’s the problem. The solution is simple: run orderly schools where there are consequences for unruly behavior. Ban cellphones on campus. Trust me, you will have better teacher retention.
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