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whats going on?
COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE NOW TAKING 9TH GRADE MATH IN COLLEGE. EVEN SCHOOLS LIKE GEORGE MASON UNIVERISTY. https://www.foxnews.com/us/college-students-struggling-basic-math-many-stuck-9th-grade-level-professors-blame-pandemic This is sad. we need to stop giving everyone an A and give real grades, let's go back to giving 0's and F's when they are earned. |
Well...the colleges are accepting these kids, so I guess it didn't matter for acceptance. So, if kids that need to take 9th grade math are accepted at GMU...who the heck are they rejecting? |
I'm with Fox News on this one. Let's elimate the department of education. elimate (transitive, obsolete) To render smooth; to polish. |
George Mason University admissions is selective with an acceptance rate of 91% and an early acceptance rate of 91.1%. per google, so I am guessing 9% of the students applying... |
| Isn't test optional great? |
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They are still recovering from the Pandemic in terms of Math learning loss.
Its not the end of the world for them, its a lot harder for the inner city kids who had NO math for 18 months because they had no computers or online learning. |
I hear you...but then you will see posts about people so nervous about whether their kid will get accepted to GMU (and they describe their kid as 1400+ SATs...so I doubt they need to repeat 9th grade math). I guess 9% of kids forget to include their check with the application...though I know that is not possible these days with the Internet. |
| Because county HS passes everyone. What's messed up is K-12, not colleges. |
| I graduated from Mason back in 2010, we used to called it NOVA 2.0, they have some good food. |
| Two causes. first and predominant cause is that schools are passing everyone and doing so with As and A-s. Secondary is learning loss from COVID. A lot of kids missed out on the opportunity to learn fundamental math concepts. US math education is far behind the rest of the world. |
This is such BS. In the rest of the world, by the time you get to a school like Mason, those kids would be in trade school not college. People bash the US because we don't pressure kids to leave the college track early or just drop out and our over all scores reflect it. Meanwhile kids from countries that people love to praise fall over themselves to attend US universities |
People "fall all over themselves to attend US universities" for two reasons: 1. they want to go to elite colleges like Harvard, not GMU 2. they want the job opportunities the US, which is easier to get with an education visa, so they are willing to go to a lesser university to get that visa. |
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There were remedial math classes in college pre covid, too. I don't mean GMU, necessarily.
Math here is abysmal for the vast majority of Americans. Only a tiny % do very well in math. This is what happens when you make college admissions test optional. |
NP. While what you are saying is true, I think this is actually more of a philosophical debate as to whether the US is doing right by ANY students in our efforts to NOT “track” them. The students who can’t learn math still won’t, and the kids who could learn math won’t because the resources are going towards pushing stones uphill. Who does this benefit? |
It's not bs. Latest PISA test results: https://data.oecd.org/pisa/mathematics-performance-pisa.htm |