differences between AOPS level 3 vs Beast Academy level 3

[Anonymous]

My kid is assessed in person to be placed at level 3 AOPS in person class and they use Beast academy as curriculum. The schedule does not work, and I decide to do try Beast academy level 3 instead from home. The first chapter for Beast academy level 3 is about angles of triangle, and he struggles with it because he has never learned it. I don't recall angles are shown on placement test. I put him in Beast academy level 2, and he did it for a few days. He said it was not challenging and too easy for him.

What is the problem now? I wonder if I should put him back in Level 2 or keep him in Level 3 on beast academy.

[Anonymous]

He needs to read the comics and watch the videos in order to answer the problems.

[Anonymous]

completing Level 2 (especially the fun "games") would put him in a good position to do level 3. But you don't have to start at Level 2 chapter 1. Just unlock all of level 2 and have him try each chapter. Also, have him try the trophies - those are hard even for adults!

[Anonymous]

OP here. I think I see the issue now. He skipped reading comics and watching videos and he did chapter 2 for a few days with no problems. I need to figure out how to log into my parent account to reset rules, that is to make sure that he read comics and watch videos before he can do questions. He got into trouble on Chapter 1 for level 3 when he did that. It drived me crazy when I tried to explain to him about angles, and he did not get it. I don't understand why he can't visual tell the differences in angles.

I don't want to sit next to him while he is doing beast academy if I have an option. Do you sit next to your child? He loves math, and he was the one asking me to give him math. He is 2nd grader. How long should he do every day on beast academy?

[Anonymous]

he should not be forced to do BA. BA is for kids who find math fun. Let him do it as long or as short as he wants. Let him make his character and do the puzzle games. Or make up goals like "Get 6 stars/trophies today and get a cookie".

FWIW, DS spent hours on BA and went through 2 levels in 6 months. DD did it for 15 minutes every other day and went through 1 level in a year.

[Anonymous]

AOPS 3 is the same curriculum as Beast 3.

Beast workbooks (used in class) have problem types not in the online app.

Some AoPS classes have additional work not in the books. (Maybe only in Prealgebra+)

Maybe your kid needs more L2 geometry but not L2 arithmetic. L2 starts with (disguised) Roman Numerals.

Beast online lets you do all levels, so skim 2 quickly and spend more time on the harder parts like geometry, and then go on to 3.

Full year classes are always weak fits. Every kid has different past experience and current ability.

Beast is more advanced than school class. Many kids do it after the school year of same level.
A student who finishes Beast 5 will be ready for Prealgebra (Math 8 / AMP 7+) the next school year, which might be 6th or 7th grade depending on your kid's pace. Some students can skip prealgebra and place into school Algebra after doing Beast 5 and (free!) AoPS Prealgebrs videos and Alcumus at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AOPS 3 is the same curriculum as Beast 3.

Beast workbooks (used in class) have problem types not in the online app.

Some AoPS classes have additional work not in the books. (Maybe only in Prealgebra+)

Maybe your kid needs more L2 geometry but not L2 arithmetic. L2 starts with (disguised) Roman Numerals.

Beast online lets you do all levels, so skim 2 quickly and spend more time on the harder parts like geometry, and then go on to 3.

Full year classes are always weak fits. Every kid has different past experience and current ability.

Beast is more advanced than school class. Many kids do it after the school year of same level.
A student who finishes Beast 5 will be ready for Prealgebra (Math 8 / AMP 7+) the next school year, which might be 6th or 7th grade depending on your kid's pace. Some students can skip prealgebra and place into school Algebra after doing Beast 5 and (free!) AoPS Prealgebrs videos and Alcumus at home.

OP here. I think you may be right. I just pull out his latest Map score, and it says measurement and data (210), geometry (230), Operations and Algebraic thinking (234) & Numbers and Operations(256). I don't know exactly what you mean by arithmetic, and I don't really understand what those focus area score above mean. I know his strength is addition/subtraction and some multiplication/division, and that is numbers and operations, right? I was told once that he is good on grasping concepts but it was a test done when he was age 4. If anyone can tell me which areas I should skip and which area to work on, that will be great! Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AOPS 3 is the same curriculum as Beast 3.

Beast workbooks (used in class) have problem types not in the online app.

Some AoPS classes have additional work not in the books. (Maybe only in Prealgebra+)

Maybe your kid needs more L2 geometry but not L2 arithmetic. L2 starts with (disguised) Roman Numerals.

Beast online lets you do all levels, so skim 2 quickly and spend more time on the harder parts like geometry, and then go on to 3.

Full year classes are always weak fits. Every kid has different past experience and current ability.

Beast is more advanced than school class. Many kids do it after the school year of same level.
A student who finishes Beast 5 will be ready for Prealgebra (Math 8 / AMP 7+) the next school year, which might be 6th or 7th grade depending on your kid's pace. Some students can skip prealgebra and place into school Algebra after doing Beast 5 and (free!) AoPS Prealgebrs videos and Alcumus at home.

OP here. I think you may be right. I just pull out his latest Map score, and it says measurement and data (210), geometry (230), Operations and Algebraic thinking (234) & Numbers and Operations(256). I don't know exactly what you mean by arithmetic, and I don't really understand what those focus area score above mean. I know his strength is addition/subtraction and some multiplication/division, and that is numbers and operations, right? I was told once that he is good on grasping concepts but it was a test done when he was age 4. If anyone can tell me which areas I should skip and which area to work on, that will be great! Thank you.

Measurement and data is rulers, clocks, coins, cups, pounds, and in later years, data charts and statistics.

Geometry is shapes

Operations and Algebraic thinking is word/visual problems and figuring out what calculation you need to solve a problem.

Numbers and Operations is raw calculation, like a calculator does.


But don't split hairs. Just go through 2. If a section is too easy and boring, jump to the next section, if it's still boring, jump ahead more sections in the same chapter.

Beast online has about 12 chapters per level ("year"), with about 15 sections per chapter.

[Anonymous]

We had a similar experience, my son was tested into BA3 and was lost for the first few classes as the topic was completely new to him. It was an in-person class and he mastered the materials by reviewing the book/video and doing homework. I remembered it was unexpectedly rough for the first few weeks. Originally I wasn't planning to go back to BA2 but this experience made me realize that there was some knowledge hole although he was accepted in BA3. He went back and finished BA2 in a few months by watching videos and doing homework, with my help (sitting next to him). Some sections are really easy but a few require some thinking and work. He liked the whole curriculum and happily read the book, going back to BA2 on our own time was not bad at all. Looking back, I am glad he got the chance to finish BA2.

[Anonymous]

Is BA 3 = 3rd grade AAP in topics?

[Anonymous]

Not entirely.

Some of Beast Level 3 topics are ahead of 3rd AAP and for other you might need Level 4 Beast to properly cover 3rd grade AAP.