UVA drops legacy admissions

[Anonymous]

As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

[Anonymous]

In the essay they can self identify how UVA has been part of their family for generations, etc.

[Anonymous]

So interesting. My son has been inclined not to apply because a classmate is a family member of a very high-ranking person (not faculty) at UVA. I wonder if that kid will still get a thumb on the scale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So interesting. My son has been inclined not to apply because a classmate is a family member of a very high-ranking person (not faculty) at UVA. I wonder if that kid will still get a thumb on the scale.

Of course. The kid whose mom was class of '95 and works at a regional law firm in Minnesota is the one they are targeting not the kid who has a dean willing to put in a good word

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

Nothing in either article says they are dropping legacy, in fact the WAPO article concludes "The U-Va. message did not say, however, that alumni connections would no longer be considered."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So interesting. My son has been inclined not to apply because a classmate is a family member of a very high-ranking person (not faculty) at UVA. I wonder if that kid will still get a thumb on the scale.

Of course. The kid whose mom was class of '95 and works at a regional law firm in Minnesota is the one they are targeting not the kid who has a dean willing to put in a good word

It's really aggravating. The kid is such an inferior candidate. I would love to give more details but it would make everyone so easily doxxable.

Anyway, to speak more generally: in a situation with a smallish school at which only 1-2 students (sometimes 0) are accepted every year, is it a waste of time to apply when you know one seat is a lock for someone already? Or does taking an inferior "connected" student shame the admissions committee into accepting another student or two from the same school, so their favoritism isn't so transparent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

UVA isn't diverse to begin with so this is funny!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

Nothing in either article says they are dropping legacy, in fact the WAPO article concludes "The U-Va. message did not say, however, that alumni connections would no longer be considered."

It dropped legacy check-the-box. Same as race. So, yeah, it dropped legacy in the same way it dropped race-based considerations. Whether or not that's a wink-wink, nod-nod remains to be seen. But at the same time it complied with the SCOTUS by dropping race check-the-box, it also dropped legacy check-the-box. That's the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

UVA isn't diverse to begin with so this is funny!

+1

If you claim to be a minority, you will get in to UVA these days - they are that desperate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

UVA isn't diverse to begin with so this is funny!

+1

If you claim to be a minority, you will get in to UVA these days - they are that desperate.

That isn't ... how ... it ... works. I mean, you can't agree that UVA lacks diversity and then make that statement. It doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

Nothing in either article says they are dropping legacy, in fact the WAPO article concludes "The U-Va. message did not say, however, that alumni connections would no longer be considered."

It dropped legacy check-the-box. Same as race. So, yeah, it dropped legacy in the same way it dropped race-based considerations. Whether or not that's a wink-wink, nod-nod remains to be seen. But at the same time it complied with the SCOTUS by dropping race check-the-box, it also dropped legacy check-the-box. That's the point.

Can you point to the line in either article that says they dropped the legacy check box? The UVA article is explicit that they dropped the race check box, but doesn't mention the legacy box

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

Nothing in either article says they are dropping legacy, in fact the WAPO article concludes "The U-Va. message did not say, however, that alumni connections would no longer be considered."

It dropped legacy check-the-box. Same as race. So, yeah, it dropped legacy in the same way it dropped race-based considerations. Whether or not that's a wink-wink, nod-nod remains to be seen. But at the same time it complied with the SCOTUS by dropping race check-the-box, it also dropped legacy check-the-box. That's the point.

Can you point to the line in either article that says they dropped the legacy check box? The UVA article is explicit that they dropped the race check box, but doesn't mention the legacy box

Uh, it’s the second sentence of the Post article. Did you read it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

UVA isn't diverse to begin with so this is funny!

+1

If you claim to be a minority, you will get in to UVA these days - they are that desperate.

That isn't ... how ... it ... works. I mean, you can't agree that UVA lacks diversity and then make that statement. It doesn't make sense.

haha so true +1. Have any of the PP's even been on grounds recently? I have, and every time, I feel that I'M in the minority (in a good way) as a white woman. They have really emphasized this over the past 10 years and it does show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So interesting. My son has been inclined not to apply because a classmate is a family member of a very high-ranking person (not faculty) at UVA. I wonder if that kid will still get a thumb on the scale.

Of course. The kid whose mom was class of '95 and works at a regional law firm in Minnesota is the one they are targeting not the kid who has a dean willing to put in a good word

It's really aggravating. The kid is such an inferior candidate. I would love to give more details but it would make everyone so easily doxxable.

Anyway, to speak more generally: in a situation with a smallish school at which only 1-2 students (sometimes 0) are accepted every year, is it a waste of time to apply when you know one seat is a lock for someone already? Or does taking an inferior "connected" student shame the admissions committee into accepting another student or two from the same school, so their favoritism isn't so transparent?

Firstly you have no clue what "dox" means. Look it up. It is to do with actual, identifying information like name, address, company employer, date of birth, etc. Its not vague gossipy BS that you want to bandy around.

Secondly WHO CARES about some random kid. Focus on your own kid. Where anyone else applies from his school is pretty irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As predicted, schools are laser focused on Chief Justice Roberts's comments in the recent AA case and making more use of the essay tool to get the diverse classes they covet.

UVA just announced it will create a new essay to allow students to self-identify as minority, etc. It's also scaling back/eliminating legacy admissions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/08/01/uva-legacy-admissions-college-application/

https://news.virginia.edu/content/after-supreme-court-ruling-uva-adjusts-admissions-practices

While this may be more labor-intensive than checking the box on race-based admissions, I imagine not much is going to change in the commitment to creating more diverse classes and ensuring better representation from historically oppressed groups. Which is a good thing.

UVA isn't diverse to begin with so this is funny!

+1

If you claim to be a minority, you will get in to UVA these days - they are that desperate.

That isn't ... how ... it ... works. I mean, you can't agree that UVA lacks diversity and then make that statement. It doesn't make sense.

+100. It's the exact oppositive. They don't take in minorities at that heavily white school.