Shutdown Rhetoric

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's cute how liberals pretend to love all these illegal immigrants yet obsess over not living near them and making sure their kids don't go to schools with any.

OMG yes. Just check the number of threads here re the “best” districts and how north Arlington is the place to be bc you simply can’t send your kids to school in south Arlington or heaven forbid Falls Church. But now omg illegals are OUR kids and we have to be fair. GTFO. At least republicans are honest - work something out for the 800k if you can without too much trouble - and IMO even that shouldnt be full citizenship - and to their parents and the other 3.6m illegals, you’ve benefited enough so if those benefits stop, whatever . . . .

Not this liberal. I grew up with them. Ended up marrying a Hispanic immigrant and had kids. You all fear what you don’t know. Bigots!

Good for you? But read DCUM generally -- it's always about the "best" districts and ones that aren't too ESOL heavy because it takes away from their precious gifted child and the particular instruction he'd receive in a "better" school. But yet they are sooooo liberal, and anyone who is honest is a republican racist.

If the hood fits ...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those suggesting the Dems “give in” — do you sincerely feel that the GOP will bring up DACA for discussion and bipartisan compromise after a clean CR, and before the last minute/March?

So if they don't, they don't. Sorry but they ARE illegal and they've gotten to live here their whole lives, if they have to sweat it out to March then that's a small price to pay for life in America, free k-12 education, work authorizations etc. We know they're not going anywhere so if it takes until the last day so what.

Hmm I wouldnt be so sure. I don’t think we should reward breaking laws and lots of republicans in congress agree with me.

They won't leave. Come on these people are masters at living illegally in a nation. They'll just go underground/under the table like their parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The left will be crushed if this shutdown goes on for a prolonged period and most of America decides it doesn't really matter. So a bunch of non essential federal workers miss a few paychecks? Who cares?

The lefts use of manufactured hysteria to bully the electorate into unwise policy decisions is pretty much over with. Even the main stream media isn't really buying this as anything other than a desperate move by
a very weak and rudderless democrat party.

Have always voted Dem in the past, but here's hoping you're right. And I hope people let it sink in that they chose ILLEGALS over US citizens.

What will sink in is that President Deal Maker is as squishy as jello and completely untrustworthy in negotiations.

Why did he tell Schumer on Friday they had a deal and then step back on it? Why did he tell McConnell not to go ahead with the Graham-Durbin bill? Why do the Republicans choose a shutdown over actual negotiations? Because they are complete hypocrites who say one thing and do another.

Democrats need to stand their ground. Sick of them being the ones who always give in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's cute how liberals pretend to love all these illegal immigrants yet obsess over not living near them and making sure their kids don't go to schools with any.

OMG yes. Just check the number of threads here re the “best” districts and how north Arlington is the place to be bc you simply can’t send your kids to school in south Arlington or heaven forbid Falls Church. But now omg illegals are OUR kids and we have to be fair. GTFO. At least republicans are honest - work something out for the 800k if you can without too much trouble - and IMO even that shouldnt be full citizenship - and to their parents and the other 3.6m illegals, you’ve benefited enough so if those benefits stop, whatever . . . .

Not this liberal. I grew up with them. Ended up marrying a Hispanic immigrant and had kids. You all fear what you don’t know. Bigots!

Good for you? But read DCUM generally -- it's always about the "best" districts and ones that aren't too ESOL heavy because it takes away from their precious gifted child and the particular instruction he'd receive in a "better" school. But yet they are sooooo liberal, and anyone who is honest is a republican racist.

If the hood fits ...

I don't have kids so I didn't choose where to live based on school demographics -- but come on if you read DCUM, you know that above theme is prevalent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left will be crushed if this shutdown goes on for a prolonged period and most of America decides it doesn't really matter. So a bunch of non essential federal workers miss a few paychecks? Who cares?

The lefts use of manufactured hysteria to bully the electorate into unwise policy decisions is pretty much over with. Even the main stream media isn't really buying this as anything other than a desperate move by
a very weak and rudderless democrat party.

Have always voted Dem in the past, but here's hoping you're right. And I hope people let it sink in that they chose ILLEGALS over US citizens.

What will sink in is that President Deal Maker is as squishy as jello and completely untrustworthy in negotiations.

Why did he tell Schumer on Friday they had a deal and then step back on it? Why did he tell McConnell not to go ahead with the Graham-Durbin bill? Why do the Republicans choose a shutdown over actual negotiations? Because they are complete hypocrites who say one thing and do another.

Democrats need to stand their ground. Sick of them being the ones who always give in.

Wow MSNBC is really spinning it for y’all

[Anonymous]

Republicans control the White House and congress and couldn't come up with votes ? Shut that shit down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those suggesting the Dems “give in” — do you sincerely feel that the GOP will bring up DACA for discussion and bipartisan compromise after a clean CR, and before the last minute/March?

So if they don't, they don't. Sorry but they ARE illegal and they've gotten to live here their whole lives, if they have to sweat it out to March then that's a small price to pay for life in America, free k-12 education, work authorizations etc. We know they're not going anywhere so if it takes until the last day so what.

Hmm I wouldnt be so sure. I don’t think we should reward breaking laws and lots of republicans in congress agree with me.

They won't leave. Come on these people are masters at living illegally in a nation. They'll just go underground/under the table like their parents.

Wishful thinking. No many of them are known now. ICE will be after them soon. Time to stop rewarding rule breaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those suggesting the Dems “give in” — do you sincerely feel that the GOP will bring up DACA for discussion and bipartisan compromise after a clean CR, and before the last minute/March?

So if they don't, they don't. Sorry but they ARE illegal and they've gotten to live here their whole lives, if they have to sweat it out to March then that's a small price to pay for life in America, free k-12 education, work authorizations etc. We know they're not going anywhere so if it takes until the last day so what.

Hmm I wouldnt be so sure. I don’t think we should reward breaking laws and lots of republicans in congress agree with me.

They won't leave. Come on these people are masters at living illegally in a nation. They'll just go underground/under the table like their parents.

Wishful thinking. No many of them are known now. ICE will be after them soon. Time to stop rewarding rule breaking.

Then it is what it is. I'm not wishing for that to happen to them, but honestly I don't think their rights come before the rights of actual US citizen -- fed workers are by definition citizens; military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those suggesting the Dems “give in” — do you sincerely feel that the GOP will bring up DACA for discussion and bipartisan compromise after a clean CR, and before the last minute/March?

So if they don't, they don't. Sorry but they ARE illegal and they've gotten to live here their whole lives, if they have to sweat it out to March then that's a small price to pay for life in America, free k-12 education, work authorizations etc. We know they're not going anywhere so if it takes until the last day so what.

Hmm I wouldnt be so sure. I don’t think we should reward breaking laws and lots of republicans in congress agree with me.

They won't leave. Come on these people are masters at living illegally in a nation. They'll just go underground/under the table like their parents.

Wishful thinking. No many of them are known now. ICE will be after them soon. Time to stop rewarding rule breaking.

Then it is what it is. I'm not wishing for that to happen to them, but honestly I don't think their rights come before the rights of actual US citizen -- fed workers are by definition citizens; military.

+1. D ms need to realize even their base doesn’t really care about the dreamers. Support our troops!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left will be crushed if this shutdown goes on for a prolonged period and most of America decides it doesn't really matter. So a bunch of non essential federal workers miss a few paychecks? Who cares?

The lefts use of manufactured hysteria to bully the electorate into unwise policy decisions is pretty much over with. Even the main stream media isn't really buying this as anything other than a desperate move by
a very weak and rudderless democrat party.

Have always voted Dem in the past, but here's hoping you're right. And I hope people let it sink in that they chose ILLEGALS over US citizens.

What will sink in is that President Deal Maker is as squishy as jello and completely untrustworthy in negotiations.

Why did he tell Schumer on Friday they had a deal and then step back on it? Why did he tell McConnell not to go ahead with the Graham-Durbin bill? Why do the Republicans choose a shutdown over actual negotiations? Because they are complete hypocrites who say one thing and do another.

Democrats need to stand their ground. Sick of them being the ones who always give in.

Wow MSNBC is really spinning it for y’all

I don't have cable. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal and want help for the dreamers but don’t think this shut down is worth it. You shouldn’t shut down the government to support people that are not voting constituents. At best it will do nothing because they can’t vote and it has the potential to cost you the next election.

I kind of agree, but am tired of the he Dems being the only ones who have to give in while the are dig in and refuse to budge. Do you think the Dems should give in on CHIP too?

The budget fully funds CHIP for 6 years. Am I wrong about that?

The vote isn't over the budget. McConnell is 5 months behind on a budget.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/house-votes-government-shutdown/index.html

The CR funds CHIP for 6 years.

Dems got their CHIP, can bring up DACA again in a few weeks when the CR runs out. Seems like they got a good deal, why won’t they take it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those suggesting the Dems “give in” — do you sincerely feel that the GOP will bring up DACA for discussion and bipartisan compromise after a clean CR, and before the last minute/March?

So if they don't, they don't. Sorry but they ARE illegal and they've gotten to live here their whole lives, if they have to sweat it out to March then that's a small price to pay for life in America, free k-12 education, work authorizations etc. We know they're not going anywhere so if it takes until the last day so what.

Hmm I wouldnt be so sure. I don’t think we should reward breaking laws and lots of republicans in congress agree with me.

They won't leave. Come on these people are masters at living illegally in a nation. They'll just go underground/under the table like their parents.

Wishful thinking. No many of them are known now. ICE will be after them soon. Time to stop rewarding rule breaking.

Then it is what it is. I'm not wishing for that to happen to them, but honestly I don't think their rights come before the rights of actual US citizen -- fed workers are by definition citizens; military.

+1. D ms need to realize even their base doesn’t really care about the dreamers. Support our troops!!

People care in the general sense of not wishing them harm, wanting something worked out for them. But if it can't, it can't -- US citizens working for the gov't have to get paid; military needs to get paid. And frankly how can you not have concern for the fact that most of the CDC is furloughed during a heavy flu season; almost all of EPA is furloughed -- including the people who test ground water routinely for chemical seepage etc.; people enrolled in clinical trials that are gov't funded now have treatments hanging in the balance. How can all of these things for the benefit of CITIZENS be less important than the rights of people who are here illegally whether they're at fault or not.

[Anonymous]

The easiest/only way to stop illegal immigration is to crack down on employers. They will stop coming if they can’t get hired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal and want help for the dreamers but don’t think this shut down is worth it. You shouldn’t shut down the government to support people that are not voting constituents. At best it will do nothing because they can’t vote and it has the potential to cost you the next election.

I kind of agree, but am tired of the he Dems being the only ones who have to give in while the are dig in and refuse to budge. Do you think the Dems should give in on CHIP too?

The budget fully funds CHIP for 6 years. Am I wrong about that?

The vote isn't over the budget. McConnell is 5 months behind on a budget.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/house-votes-government-shutdown/index.html

The CR funds CHIP for 6 years.

Dems got their CHIP, can bring up DACA again in a few weeks when the CR runs out. Seems like they got a good deal, why won’t they take it?

Why didn't Trump stick with his promise to take the agreement he reached on Friday with Schumer?

Why didn't McConnell take the Graham-Durbin bill that had enough votes to get passed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a liberal and want help for the dreamers but don’t think this shut down is worth it. You shouldn’t shut down the government to support people that are not voting constituents. At best it will do nothing because they can’t vote and it has the potential to cost you the next election.

I kind of agree, but am tired of the he Dems being the only ones who have to give in while the are dig in and refuse to budge. Do you think the Dems should give in on CHIP too?

The budget fully funds CHIP for 6 years. Am I wrong about that?

The vote isn't over the budget. McConnell is 5 months behind on a budget.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/politics/house-votes-government-shutdown/index.html

The CR funds CHIP for 6 years.

Dems got their CHIP, can bring up DACA again in a few weeks when the CR runs out. Seems like they got a good deal, why won’t they take it?

And Mark Meadows said on ABC today the president called him to withhold two things that the freedom caucus wanted in this CR. So this CR has nothing in it that democrats reject. This #SchumerShutdown is pure politics. They want to see the president giving the state of the union speech during a shutdown. I think the shutdown will last at least pass Jan 30.