How's the TJ Math 4 this year? Is there any statistics posted?

[Anonymous]

How's the TJ Math 4 this year? Is there any statistics posted?

[Anonymous]

curious.. are u asking because Math 4 is considered hard?

[Anonymous]

Might be referring to the report from last year (the year after the Covid virtual year where many students didn't make adequate progress in math) of an underperforming class and their unnderperforming teachers who ignored problems all year and then externalized all the blame to the students at the very end of the year.

vttps://fairfaxgop.org/tj-math-teachers-note-lowering-of-standards/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Might be referring to the report from last year (the year after the Covid virtual year where many students didn't make adequate progress in math) of an underperforming class and their unnderperforming teachers who ignored problems all year and then externalized all the blame to the students at the very end of the year.

vttps://fairfaxgop.org/tj-math-teachers-note-lowering-of-standards/

Lets blame this on everything but the most obvious reason....woke admissions changes...

[Anonymous]

I’m sure Fairfax GOP has unbiased reporting. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure Fairfax GOP has unbiased reporting. LOL.

I don’t disagree, but the email they quote seems to be legit.

[Anonymous]

But that course is not the “normal” one most freshmen would start in. Most freshman on the “normal” advanced pace of Algebra 1 Honors in 7th would have take Math 3 in spring 2022 not Math 4.

So that Math 4 class was: 1) sophomore kids in the final TJ class that used the old test; and 2) freshmen in the new “new process class” that were extra advanced & took algebra 1 in 6th (or skipped an extra level by taking it in the summer) so not exactly the “lower level” kids the new system was supposedly filling up with.

My hunch is that it was a more of an issue with math gaps or habits built up over Covid and the sophomores having to do the crucial first TJ year during the remote season vs in person.

[Anonymous]

Math at TJ is tough. Even M1 is not a breeze.

[Anonymous]

In response to the pp - what is the grade distribution for math courses at TJ?

I have heard for pre-cal and calculus nearly 50% of the class lands up with B’s. Is that the case? Wonder how this must be impacting the college application process, it its true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But that course is not the “normal” one most freshmen would start in. Most freshman on the “normal” advanced pace of Algebra 1 Honors in 7th would have take Math 3 in spring 2022 not Math 4.

So that Math 4 class was: 1) sophomore kids in the final TJ class that used the old test; and 2) freshmen in the new “new process class” that were extra advanced & took algebra 1 in 6th (or skipped an extra level by taking it in the summer) so not exactly the “lower level” kids the new system was supposedly filling up with.

My hunch is that it was a more of an issue with math gaps or habits built up over Covid and the sophomores having to do the crucial first TJ year during the remote season vs in person.

It might have to do with taking lower caliber students, despite the students being in more advanced classes. This would be the ones that typically get accused of prepping their way in under the old reforms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In response to the pp - what is the grade distribution for math courses at TJ?

I have heard for pre-cal and calculus nearly 50% of the class lands up with B’s. Is that the case? Wonder how this must be impacting the college application process, it its true

Not just this course but this is common in many courses as well. Going to TJ is going to make it a little harder for college admissions for the vast majority of the students. But the upside is getting a very rigorous HS education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In response to the pp - what is the grade distribution for math courses at TJ?

I have heard for pre-cal and calculus nearly 50% of the class lands up with B’s. Is that the case? Wonder how this must be impacting the college application process, it its true

Not just this course but this is common in many courses as well. Going to TJ is going to make it a little harder for college admissions for the vast majority of the students. But the upside is getting a very rigorous HS education.

Yes but the main upside for my kid is going to a school where she feels like she fits and is comfortable trying things out and volunteering for things.

I’ll take the tougher grading and resulting college impact as a trade off for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Math at TJ is tough. Even M1 is not a breeze.

Any suggestions for freshmen to be successful with Math 1? will they be playing constant catch up if other kids are entering at Math 3 or 4?

[Anonymous]

No they won't be playing catch up. They just will not be able to take a number of courses as soon as other kids, and some classes they will not be able to take at all.

[Anonymous]

As PP mention there is no catch up required nor can u skip via placement test.

its M1 to AP Cal in Senior. Nice and steady.

As PP said - Main draw back is some courses require AP Calc eg Machine Learning or AP physics ( concurrent is fine)

But in the grand scheme of things.. its not a big deal. let the kids progress at their pace.