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If you're a normie (not a political junkie) who moved to Florida or are considering it, do you care at all about the politics, or is there a large constituency of people who just are completely unfazed by the politics either way?
Or, let me phrase this like a survey. If you moved to Florida, which describes you best? A. The conservative, right-leaning politics are a major reason why I moved here and I wanted to escape left/liberal politics elsewhere. B. The right-leaning politics somewhat has to do with it, for example I don't care about the culture wars so much as I love paying lower taxes. C. I moved here for other reasons, like beautiful weather, but find the politics irritating and I try to ignore it. D. I moved here in spite of the politics and I strongly oppose Florida's political climate. E. Politics? What politics? I like beaches. |
| I want to live in a state where cops have never been ordered to “stand down” during a riot. |
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D - we moved here nine years ago before the politics got so insane.
We live in a city that's a little pocket of blue, but the state politics are so infuriating and frankly terrifying that if we were moving today we'd pick someplace else. Now, we have a house, a community - it's harder to just pick up and go. We love a lot about our lives here, but the politics essentially feel like an assault. Woke comes to Florida to die, says the awful governor - and we feel like he's telling us we're not welcome here. Gay people are leaving, teachers are leaving, trans people are leaving, professors are leaving, people who care about their kids' education are leaving - and I don't blame any of them. Meanwhile DeSantis is importing the worst cops - the ones who make us feel unsafe, and we're not even the ones who are most at risk with these crazies holding guns and the power to use them. Yeah, right now it's D. |
| So far, zero stats on any exodus out of Florida. |
| My several friends who moved there in the past few years are mostly in class C. |
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Hard D for me. We love it here and see FL as rapidly turning purple.
Don’t kill the messenger. |
| I know three retirees who have moved away from Florida. They thought they were there for good but decided to move back North. All had various reasons for doing so, but politics played a part. |
We are also D. Just to point out, we are not seeing the same thing. Rhonda Santis is now the #1 drag queen name (OK I made that up. I just wanted to say Rhonda Santis). We don’t see people leaving to the degree that you do. We live in a community with a lot of families, and we do see groups of like-minded people forming. We have a Banned Book Club group for kids. Synagogues and educated parents are forming groups to teach correct history. FL folks have been correctly labeled as ignorant and stupid but people from other parts of the country are moving here in huge numbers. So the dumb locals get louder. Jacksonville just voted in its first woman democratic mayor. Not huge, but a sign. Things are shifting. Stay tuned! |
I am the PP - and you're right. The Jax election gives me some hope (and what a rare feeling for a Florida Dem). People are taking a stand how we can. Our mayor just launched Pride month yesterday - and while some other communities have canceled their pride events, we've still got the whole thing, parades, drag queens, and all. I expect it's going to be huge this year (it's huge every year, but probably this year especially). I hope to gd that Rhonda Santis has overplayed his hand, and that the chickens come home to roost (and sht on his head while they do it). I'm going to try to breathe in some of your optimism. Thanks for keeping up the fight. |
This gives me so much hope. Thank you. |
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Solid D and I know many others who also fit that description.
I don't know anybody who is leaving because of the politics and I don't know anybody who moved here because they think the politics are so great. I know they exist but I don't know them. |
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Bless the Dems who are willing to stick it out and turn Florida purple again. Ditto Dems in Texas, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan -- we need you there, registered to vote!
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I'd characterize myself as a c. I'm really just a working class stiff came here to finish out their career in the warm weather and live a little better and get some sunshine. I'm just not down with all those political crazy.
I do really like it here, outside of the crazy political stuff going on, and I have hope for a better future. |
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I have friends who are planning their exit after decades because of what’s happening politically.
They’ve just become empty nesters, but would have stayed put otherwise. They’re POC. |
+1 And where public schools were safely opened for most of the time after September 2020. |