Algebra I, geometry, algebra 2

[Anonymous]

Did your kid prep through outside curriculum before taking it in school?

What was your experience either way?

[Anonymous]

No.

[Anonymous]

Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

Complex numbers have never been part of Algebra I. If you want to pay money to have someone teach your DC ahead, fine, but it's not "abridged" or "appropriate".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

Complex numbers have never been part of Algebra I. If you want to pay money to have someone teach your DC ahead, fine, but it's not "abridged" or "appropriate".

Not sure why you're putting these words in quotes, nor is it clear what the antecedent to "it" is for your remark to make any sense, but you sound mathematically uninformed. Are you sure you're in the right forum? This forum is for parents whose kids are academically advanced.

[Anonymous]

No prep and kid has been fine thru Geometry - which he is taking right now in 8th. I personally would not allow my kid to take Alg 1 in 7th grade if he needed to prep for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

Complex numbers have never been part of Algebra I. If you want to pay money to have someone teach your DC ahead, fine, but it's not "abridged" or "appropriate".

Not sure why you're putting these words in quotes, nor is it clear what the antecedent to "it" is for your remark to make any sense, but you sound mathematically uninformed. Are you sure you're in the right forum? This forum is for parents whose kids are academically advanced.

Yeah, I messed up the parallels. The antecedent, obviously, is regular H or non-H Algebra I without complex numbers. Algebra I is not "abridged" or "inappropriate". I'm not thrilled with the no-textbooks-no-homework style of teaching but it is working for DC.

But you do you, hon. Sign your kid up for math classes so that he won't have to learn anything in math class at school. That sounds like fun for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

Complex numbers have never been part of Algebra I. If you want to pay money to have someone teach your DC ahead, fine, but it's not "abridged" or "appropriate".

Not sure why you're putting these words in quotes, nor is it clear what the antecedent to "it" is for your remark to make any sense, but you sound mathematically uninformed. Are you sure you're in the right forum? This forum is for parents whose kids are academically advanced.

Yeah, I messed up the parallels. The antecedent, obviously, is regular H or non-H Algebra I without complex numbers. Algebra I is not "abridged" or "inappropriate". I'm not thrilled with the no-textbooks-no-homework style of teaching but it is working for DC.

But you do you, hon. Sign your kid up for math classes so that he won't have to learn anything in math class at school. That sounds like fun for him.

"Hon" sounds sarcastic, but it is absolutely a good idea to enrich and stimulate your kids.
I assume most of you are comfortable with sending your kids to soccer or basketball so "they won't have to learn anything in PE class," yes?

It's doesn't even have to be expensive, with free videos and challenge problems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

That's not The Correct Way handed down from God.
Chapter 10 is factoring, which has the same problem (some problems don't have solutions) that the quadratic formula has (chapter 13), until i is introduced.

i is very much a teaser in AoPS Algebra 1. Algebra 2 reintroduces i and covers it in a lot more detail.

[Anonymous]

It depends a lot on age.

8th Grade in Algebra 1 is likely to benefit a lot from external enrichment.

6th Grade in Algebra 1 is likely getting enough in school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

That's not The Correct Way handed down from God.
Chapter 10 is factoring, which has the same problem (some problems don't have solutions) that the quadratic formula has (chapter 13), until i is introduced.

i is very much a teaser in AoPS Algebra 1. Algebra 2 reintroduces i and covers it in a lot more detail.

I know

Still, one of the last writing problems in Algebra 1 was factoring z^4+1=0 using elementary means. Which I thought was really cool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you should complement. Have your child enroll in RSM or AoPS either concurrently or shortly before. That's what we did. School instruction is insufficient in multiple ways. First, students aren't doing any problem solving in school (all they do is textbook worksheets and SOL prep); second, they don't do any mathematical writing in school; third, the school curriculum is abridged for an advanced student (e.g., no complex numbers in Algebra 1, no linear programming). Fourth, school math is much less fun.

In short, if your child is gifted and interested in math then you cannot rely on the school curriculum.

Is this a joke? Why would there be complex numbers in Algebra I? You sound nutty.

When covering math at a level appropriate for mathematically gifted students you introduce complex numbers before the quadratic formula. For instance, AoPS's textbook does so in Chapter 12.

Complex numbers have never been part of Algebra I. If you want to pay money to have someone teach your DC ahead, fine, but it's not "abridged" or "appropriate".

I remember complex numbers from eighth grade Algebra I in FCPS in the 1980s, for what it's worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No prep and kid has been fine thru Geometry - which he is taking right now in 8th. I personally would not allow my kid to take Alg 1 in 7th grade if he needed to prep for it.

Lots of people put their able and advanced kids in external classes before they take it in school.

They learn with no risk of messing up their grades and shine in class. I know a few people that have done this, but not sure how widespread it is