Finally I understand I am deist like Washington, Jefferson and Franklin .

[Anonymous]

Deism
Believe in a Creator based on natural observations.
The Creator doesn’t intervene.
Don’t believe in any holy books coming from the Creator.
Don’t believe in heaven and hell or reincarnation.
I just found out my belief system is deism and the founding fathers agree with me for the most part.

[Anonymous]

Jefferson had a bible, he just cut (like with scissors) all the miracles out of it. So I guess he accepted the behavioral rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson had a bible, he just cut (like with scissors) all the miracles out of it. So I guess he accepted the behavioral rules.

Yes, I love that he actually went through and cut all the supernatural stuff out of a physical copy of the Bible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson had a bible, he just cut (like with scissors) all the miracles out of it. So I guess he accepted the behavioral rules.

Yes, I love that he actually went through and cut all the supernatural stuff out of a physical copy of the Bible.

Jefferson's original cut-up Bible was on display at the Smithsonian a few years ago.

[Anonymous]

The Jefferson Bible is for sale on Amazon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deism
Believe in a Creator based on natural observations.
The Creator doesn’t intervene.
Don’t believe in any holy books coming from the Creator.
Don’t believe in heaven and hell or reincarnation.
I just found out my belief system is deism and the founding fathers agree with me for the most part.

What do you think happens when you die?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deism
Believe in a Creator based on natural observations.
The Creator doesn’t intervene.
Don’t believe in any holy books coming from the Creator.
Don’t believe in heaven and hell or reincarnation.
I just found out my belief system is deism and the founding fathers agree with me for the most part.

that's a sad way of believing in God. A distant God who won't answer your prayers or bring you to heaven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deism
Believe in a Creator based on natural observations.
The Creator doesn’t intervene.
Don’t believe in any holy books coming from the Creator.
Don’t believe in heaven and hell or reincarnation.
I just found out my belief system is deism and the founding fathers agree with me for the most part.

What do you think happens when you die?

I believe everything came from the creator and everything will go back to the creator.
Like rain joining an ocean, we will be like how we were before our birth .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deism
Believe in a Creator based on natural observations.
The Creator doesn’t intervene.
Don’t believe in any holy books coming from the Creator.
Don’t believe in heaven and hell or reincarnation.
I just found out my belief system is deism and the founding fathers agree with me for the most part.

that's a sad way of believing in God. A distant God who won't answer your prayers or bring you to heaven.

It doesn’t have to be distant you can meditate.

[Anonymous]

There has been a huge controversy, to put it mildly, about Washington's religious beliefs. Before the Revolutionary War he was Anglican – Church of England – which meant after the war, he was Episcopalian. So, he was clearly Christian... He was quite intensely religious, because even though he uses the word Providence, he constantly sees Providence as an active force in life, particularly in American life. I mean, every single victory in war he credits to Providence. The miracle of the Constitutional Convention he credits to Providence. The creation of the federal government and the prosperity of the early republic, he credits to Providence... I was struck at how frequently in his letters he's referring to Providence, and it's Providence where there's a sense of design and purpose, which sounds to me very much like religion... Unfortunately, this particular issue has become very very politicized.

-Biographer Ron Chernow, author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning book, Washington: A Life

[Anonymous]

If Franklin truly was a deist, he wasn’t a very good one. Doctrinaire deists believed in a distant Creator, one who did not intervene in human history, and certainly not one who would respond to prayers. Yes, Franklin questioned basic points of Christianity, including Jesus’ divine nature. Yet his childhood immersion in the Puritan faith, and his relationships with traditional Christians through his adult life, kept him tethered to his parents’ religion. If he was not a Christian, he often sounded and acted like one.

The King James Bible, for example, had a significant influence on Franklin. From his first writings as “Silence Dogood”—the pseudonym he adopted when writing essays for his brother’s newspaper, the New- England Courant—to his speeches at the Constitutional Convention, Franklin was constantly referencing the Bible. He knew it backward and forward, recalling even the most obscure sections of it from memory.

In today’s polarized political and religious environment, some pundits seek to remake the Founding Fathers in their own image. Benjamin Franklin’s example reveals that the historical truth is often more complicated.

https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746

Op, you are not a scholar, academic, or historian.

Scholars, academics, and historians don’t all agree that these men were deists.

You are declaring something that is highly debated as truth, something often done online anonymously. Just because you say it, doesn’t mean it is true.

You can believe whatever you wish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Franklin truly was a deist, he wasn’t a very good one. Doctrinaire deists believed in a distant Creator, one who did not intervene in human history, and certainly not one who would respond to prayers. Yes, Franklin questioned basic points of Christianity, including Jesus’ divine nature. Yet his childhood immersion in the Puritan faith, and his relationships with traditional Christians through his adult life, kept him tethered to his parents’ religion. If he was not a Christian, he often sounded and acted like one.

The King James Bible, for example, had a significant influence on Franklin. From his first writings as “Silence Dogood”—the pseudonym he adopted when writing essays for his brother’s newspaper, the New- England Courant—to his speeches at the Constitutional Convention, Franklin was constantly referencing the Bible. He knew it backward and forward, recalling even the most obscure sections of it from memory.

In today’s polarized political and religious environment, some pundits seek to remake the Founding Fathers in their own image. Benjamin Franklin’s example reveals that the historical truth is often more complicated.

https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746

Op, you are not a scholar, academic, or historian.

Scholars, academics, and historians don’t all agree that these men were deists.

You are declaring something that is highly debated as truth, something often done online anonymously. Just because you say it, doesn’t mean it is true.

You can believe whatever you wish.

Can you be Christian if you are questioning Jesus' divine nature ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Franklin truly was a deist, he wasn’t a very good one. Doctrinaire deists believed in a distant Creator, one who did not intervene in human history, and certainly not one who would respond to prayers. Yes, Franklin questioned basic points of Christianity, including Jesus’ divine nature. Yet his childhood immersion in the Puritan faith, and his relationships with traditional Christians through his adult life, kept him tethered to his parents’ religion. If he was not a Christian, he often sounded and acted like one.

The King James Bible, for example, had a significant influence on Franklin. From his first writings as “Silence Dogood”—the pseudonym he adopted when writing essays for his brother’s newspaper, the New- England Courant—to his speeches at the Constitutional Convention, Franklin was constantly referencing the Bible. He knew it backward and forward, recalling even the most obscure sections of it from memory.

In today’s polarized political and religious environment, some pundits seek to remake the Founding Fathers in their own image. Benjamin Franklin’s example reveals that the historical truth is often more complicated.

https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746

Op, you are not a scholar, academic, or historian.

Scholars, academics, and historians don’t all agree that these men were deists.

You are declaring something that is highly debated as truth, something often done online anonymously. Just because you say it, doesn’t mean it is true.

You can believe whatever you wish.

So can you - or anyone. I say they were deists, who sometimes went to Church, because it was the done thing in those days. Washington was famous for leaving church in Alexandria before communion (according to the tour guides there).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Franklin truly was a deist, he wasn’t a very good one. Doctrinaire deists believed in a distant Creator, one who did not intervene in human history, and certainly not one who would respond to prayers. Yes, Franklin questioned basic points of Christianity, including Jesus’ divine nature. Yet his childhood immersion in the Puritan faith, and his relationships with traditional Christians through his adult life, kept him tethered to his parents’ religion. If he was not a Christian, he often sounded and acted like one.

The King James Bible, for example, had a significant influence on Franklin. From his first writings as “Silence Dogood”—the pseudonym he adopted when writing essays for his brother’s newspaper, the New- England Courant—to his speeches at the Constitutional Convention, Franklin was constantly referencing the Bible. He knew it backward and forward, recalling even the most obscure sections of it from memory.

In today’s polarized political and religious environment, some pundits seek to remake the Founding Fathers in their own image. Benjamin Franklin’s example reveals that the historical truth is often more complicated.

https://www.baylor.edu/alumni/magazine/1601/index.php?id=944746

Op, you are not a scholar, academic, or historian.

Scholars, academics, and historians don’t all agree that these men were deists.

You are declaring something that is highly debated as truth, something often done online anonymously. Just because you say it, doesn’t mean it is true.

You can believe whatever you wish.

Lots of non-believers can sound and act like believers, because they used to be believers, and/or they have been immersed in Christian culture. Sounds like pp is trying to claim the Founding Fathers as believers, when it's not at all clear that they were. What we do know, is that they established a secular Government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What we do know, is that they established a secular Government.

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