John Hopkins for CS - yay or nay?

[Anonymous]

John Hopkins for CS - yay or nay? Is it a good program? Does industry respect it (I don't mean is it a plus like Carnagie Melon or the MITs of the world, but rather, is it not a negative. I'm worried people only see JH for pre-med).

Does JH give merit? Is it crazy competitive once you're in the CS program?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:John Hopkins for CS - yay or nay? Is it a good program? Does industry respect it (I don't mean is it a plus like Carnagie Melon or the MITs of the world, but rather, is it not a negative. I'm worried people only see JH for pre-med).

Does JH give merit? Is it crazy competitive once you're in the CS program?

Parent of a JHU CS grad (bachelor's and masters) here. Job options on graduation were the equal of bright kids elsewhere in the country (Stanford/Berkeley etc). Took 6 months after graduation (and starting work) to plug into the whole silicon valley startup scene. California kids may have a bit of a locational advantage there (but not much).

[Anonymous]

it's crazy expensive, so if money is an issue, then go with UMDCP if you are in state. UMDCP for CS is T20.

[Anonymous]

JHU CS is very prestigious! However if you want to change majors, JHU is hit or miss -- good for premed, music, CS, and theater but not much else if I recall correctly. I ended up choosing another school because I wanted a more consistent learning experience in my distribution requirements and didn't love Baltimore but if the student is really confident they want to do CS, JHU will definitely set them up with a great education and good alum network and job options.

[Anonymous]

It’s fine but it’s not why you’d go there. It isn’t worth going there specifically for that program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it's crazy expensive, so if money is an issue, then go with UMDCP if you are in state. UMDCP for CS is T20.

I just posted that it’s a fine program, but not worth it just for CS, and I agree with this.

When people are hiring they look for a CS degree from a decent school. Carnegie Mellon has a reputation in some realms (sometimes people have strong opinions on it) or maybe Stanford, MIT, Cornell, Cal Tech, etc. but having worked with people from all types of schools….I would see JHU or UMBC or UMCP or UVA or VATech and be happy with any of them. Like oh cool, good degree. If someone had a degree from UMBC and an internship and a job in college I’d be more apt to think of them over a JHU grad with no other qualification.

[Anonymous]

Like others said, usually the only schools that make a big difference above the likes of UMD, Wisconsin, etc. schools for CS are -

Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon. The larger Ivies also might get an edge in some locations due to being Ivies.

The next crop of schools after that are all large publics - Maryland, Michigan, Washington, UC San Diego, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, Purdue, etc.

There's not much premium for T20 privates over the large publics for being T20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like others said, usually the only schools that make a big difference above the likes of UMD, Wisconsin, etc. schools for CS are -

Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon. The larger Ivies also might get an edge in some locations due to being Ivies.

The next crop of schools after that are all large publics - Maryland, Michigan, Washington, UC San Diego, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, Purdue, etc.

There's not much premium for T20 privates over the large publics for being T20.

I'm a hiring manager and I agree with this. I'll also say that I'm not even sure how much of a difference Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon make; I've interviewed some real duds from these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JHU CS is very prestigious! However if you want to change majors, JHU is hit or miss -- good for premed, music, CS, and theater but not much else if I recall correctly. I ended up choosing another school because I wanted a more consistent learning experience in my distribution requirements and didn't love Baltimore but if the student is really confident they want to do CS, JHU will definitely set them up with a great education and good alum network and job options.

You don’t recall correctly. Also good for international studies, engineering, creative writing, most of the sciences, among others

[Anonymous]

BTW there is not much merit aid but a lot of financial aid via Bloomberg bucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like others said, usually the only schools that make a big difference above the likes of UMD, Wisconsin, etc. schools for CS are -

Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon. The larger Ivies also might get an edge in some locations due to being Ivies.

The next crop of schools after that are all large publics - Maryland, Michigan, Washington, UC San Diego, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, Purdue, etc.

There's not much premium for T20 privates over the large publics for being T20.

I'm a hiring manager and I agree with this. I'll also say that I'm not even sure how much of a difference Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon make; I've interviewed some real duds from these schools.

IMO, it's the DEI and holistic admissions they are using. Some CMU TA I spoke to said they are seeing a lot more CS undergrads who need a lot of help with the math classes.

Also, an A is not really an A in many of the HS anymore due to grade inflation, test retakes. SAT math doesn't go up to Calc, but obviously, CS majors have to take math classes way beyond Calc. This where they get tripped up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BTW there is not much merit aid but a lot of financial aid via Bloomberg bucks.

Yup, Hopkins offers no loan financial aid (just grants and work study) to those who qualify for aid. It’s one of 20 or so schools that offer this level of aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like others said, usually the only schools that make a big difference above the likes of UMD, Wisconsin, etc. schools for CS are -

Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon. The larger Ivies also might get an edge in some locations due to being Ivies.

The next crop of schools after that are all large publics - Maryland, Michigan, Washington, UC San Diego, Georgia Tech, Wisconsin, Purdue, etc.

There's not much premium for T20 privates over the large publics for being T20.

I'm a hiring manager and I agree with this. I'll also say that I'm not even sure how much of a difference Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon make; I've interviewed some real duds from these schools.

IMO, it's the DEI and holistic admissions they are using. Some CMU TA I spoke to said they are seeing a lot more CS undergrads who need a lot of help with the math classes.

Also, an A is not really an A in many of the HS anymore due to grade inflation, test retakes. SAT math doesn't go up to Calc, but obviously, CS majors have to take math classes way beyond Calc. This where they get tripped up.

That’s a huge problem with AA/DEI/“holistic” admissions. Colleges are not taking the best and brightest students.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thank you. This was really helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:John Hopkins for CS - yay or nay? Is it a good program? Does industry respect it (I don't mean is it a plus like Carnagie Melon or the MITs of the world, but rather, is it not a negative. I'm worried people only see JH for pre-med).

Does JH give merit? Is it crazy competitive once you're in the CS program?

Hopkins brand. Big endowment resources. Sharp classmates. If you can get into Stanford or Berkeley then obviously go there but otherwise its a great opportunity for anyone who can get in and afford.