ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:what else do we need to talk about to make it to 1000?

Can we talk about GA/MLS?? Would that help

It would. Are people worried that it is unclear what path GA will take? Do you run a significant risk of having your kid go ECNL SY and then that clubs converts to GA and is BY? Lot’s of people trying out right now with any real clear picture. Seems like a lot of risk. Or is the general sense that if your kid can make an ECNL team SY then they can make GA BY? I am seeing firsthand how difficult it is to break into teams during seasons when they aren’t significantly expanding the roster. Curious how others are thinking about this as they navigate tryouts. Especially the u13/ u14s who aren’t quite as settled into these teams.

Yes my daughter is a Q4 2013 so will be U13 next year and then again the following year. We are switching clubs so I hate that we will have 2 different teams for the next 2 years. I wish the bandaid would come off for this year. We are not ECNL or GA level

But that’s the thing, you dont know if you will repeat, it depends on what GA does, right? Also, have you considered just continuing to have your kid play up or anticipating most clubs will level you out if you can? It seems like getting an extra year of 11v11 is a lot more beneficial than 9v9, but curious if others feel differently.

Different poster, but they will be U13 fall 2025 playing 11v11 if 2013. No playing "down" then, unless leagues come out with more details.

Yes, I was thinking more of u12 age when referenced the 11v11, but you are right. But also, if you are making a change now, go ECNL/ RL, you might get moved to SY in two years. However, what if GA stays BY. You are now going back and in theory, hard competition because the kids are older. Hopefully that makes sense. Feels super messy in the DMV if GA doesn’t go SY.

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Anonymous wrote:what else do we need to talk about to make it to 1000?

Can we talk about GA/MLS?? Would that help

It would. Are people worried that it is unclear what path GA will take? Do you run a significant risk of having your kid go ECNL SY and then that clubs converts to GA and is BY? Lot’s of people trying out right now with any real clear picture. Seems like a lot of risk. Or is the general sense that if your kid can make an ECNL team SY then they can make GA BY? I am seeing firsthand how difficult it is to break into teams during seasons when they aren’t significantly expanding the roster. Curious how others are thinking about this as they navigate tryouts. Especially the u13/ u14s who aren’t quite as settled into these teams.

Yes my daughter is a Q4 2013 so will be U13 next year and then again the following year. We are switching clubs so I hate that we will have 2 different teams for the next 2 years. I wish the bandaid would come off for this year. We are not ECNL or GA level

But that’s the thing, you dont know if you will repeat, it depends on what GA does, right? Also, have you considered just continuing to have your kid play up or anticipating most clubs will level you out if you can? It seems like getting an extra year of 11v11 is a lot more beneficial than 9v9, but curious if others feel differently.

Different poster, but they will be U13 fall 2025 playing 11v11 if 2013. No playing "down" then, unless leagues come out with more details.

Not we would not play down- stay U13 for 2025 and then U13 again in 2026. Its great to have an extra year of development. Just hate to have teams switch twice when we need to make the switch for fall. Playing up is not an option- my daughter is the smallest 5th grader in her class so playing with 6th/7th graders who have already hit puberty is not in the cards for us

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If USCS/USYS moving to SY …

… I wonder what id2/ODP will do.

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Anonymous wrote:If USCS/USYS moving to SY …

… I wonder what id2/ODP will do.

That is a great question, I have seen where the player being recruited for national teams will need to be evaluated in their own age groups.

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Anonymous wrote:what else do we need to talk about to make it to 1000?

Can we talk about GA/MLS?? Would that help

It would. Are people worried that it is unclear what path GA will take? Do you run a significant risk of having your kid go ECNL SY and then that clubs converts to GA and is BY? Lot’s of people trying out right now with any real clear picture. Seems like a lot of risk. Or is the general sense that if your kid can make an ECNL team SY then they can make GA BY? I am seeing firsthand how difficult it is to break into teams during seasons when they aren’t significantly expanding the roster. Curious how others are thinking about this as they navigate tryouts. Especially the u13/ u14s who aren’t quite as settled into these teams.

The GA/MLSN path is a huge deal for people planning moves for this year and next year. I’d like my kid to stay on the ECNL girl path and don’t want to switch clubs if the club across town may switch to GA this year or next. I don’t think these leagues are understanding that a timely announcement of their specific plan could bring more players into their platform this year instead of next year.

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Can someone list what each league governing body is? I’m confused about GA…USSSA? MLSN is MLS? What about MLSN completion/mlsn2? ODP? Id2?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what else do we need to talk about to make it to 1000?

Can we talk about GA/MLS?? Would that help

It would. Are people worried that it is unclear what path GA will take? Do you run a significant risk of having your kid go ECNL SY and then that clubs converts to GA and is BY? Lot’s of people trying out right now with any real clear picture. Seems like a lot of risk. Or is the general sense that if your kid can make an ECNL team SY then they can make GA BY? I am seeing firsthand how difficult it is to break into teams during seasons when they aren’t significantly expanding the roster. Curious how others are thinking about this as they navigate tryouts. Especially the u13/ u14s who aren’t quite as settled into these teams.

Yes my daughter is a Q4 2013 so will be U13 next year and then again the following year. We are switching clubs so I hate that we will have 2 different teams for the next 2 years. I wish the bandaid would come off for this year. We are not ECNL or GA level

But that’s the thing, you dont know if you will repeat, it depends on what GA does, right? Also, have you considered just continuing to have your kid play up or anticipating most clubs will level you out if you can? It seems like getting an extra year of 11v11 is a lot more beneficial than 9v9, but curious if others feel differently.

Different poster, but they will be U13 fall 2025 playing 11v11 if 2013. No playing "down" then, unless leagues come out with more details.

Not we would not play down- stay U13 for 2025 and then U13 again in 2026. Its great to have an extra year of development. Just hate to have teams switch twice when we need to make the switch for fall. Playing up is not an option- my daughter is the smallest 5th grader in her class so playing with 6th/7th graders who have already hit puberty is not in the cards for us

ECNL already has an exception for late year kids to play down during their trapped year. I would imagine there will be exceptions that allow each team to have some SeptQ4 players play down next season.

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Agree completely but California and the whole mid Atlantic ecnl conference has hosted tryouts and formed teams with no trapped players exceptions. Making that decision post tryout would give those other markets an advantage of having older teams. I know people keep saying just add more to the roster, but that’s not good business practice giving some that advantage and not others. Two trapped players can make a huge difference in the Wins column.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree completely but California and the whole mid Atlantic ecnl conference has hosted tryouts and formed teams with no trapped players exceptions. Making that decision post tryout would give those other markets an advantage of having older teams. I know people keep saying just add more to the roster, but that’s not good business practice giving some that advantage and not others. Two trapped players can make a huge difference in the Wins column.

Then it might have been prudent to hold tryouts after March, like everyone else in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree completely but California and the whole mid Atlantic ecnl conference has hosted tryouts and formed teams with no trapped players exceptions. Making that decision post tryout would give those other markets an advantage of having older teams. I know people keep saying just add more to the roster, but that’s not good business practice giving some that advantage and not others. Two trapped players can make a huge difference in the Wins column.

I agree it is a problem for clubs that have already formed their teams for next season.

In Texas, open ECNL try outs are only in May. Any ECNL player that wants to try out for any other ECNL team before May needs the approval of their current club. Since the last match of the season here is in late April, a lot of kids are apprehensive about asking their current club for approval to try out for another ECNL club for fear their current club will bench them the rest of the current season.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone list what each league governing body is? I’m confused about GA…USSSA? MLSN is MLS? What about MLSN completion/mlsn2? ODP? Id2?

GA, MLSN, USCS, USYS, AYSO are all member organizations of the USSF. They will all have the ability to choose which registration works best for their clubs and players. We have seen the cards of 3 of those organizations, they will be changing to SY. ODP, ID2 are ID programs for our youth national teams one is USYS, and the other is USCS. They have said that national team players will need to be scouted in their birth year to align with international standards.

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Great explanation. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what else do we need to talk about to make it to 1000?

Can we talk about GA/MLS?? Would that help

It would. Are people worried that it is unclear what path GA will take? Do you run a significant risk of having your kid go ECNL SY and then that clubs converts to GA and is BY? Lot’s of people trying out right now with any real clear picture. Seems like a lot of risk. Or is the general sense that if your kid can make an ECNL team SY then they can make GA BY? I am seeing firsthand how difficult it is to break into teams during seasons when they aren’t significantly expanding the roster. Curious how others are thinking about this as they navigate tryouts. Especially the u13/ u14s who aren’t quite as settled into these teams.

Yes my daughter is a Q4 2013 so will be U13 next year and then again the following year. We are switching clubs so I hate that we will have 2 different teams for the next 2 years. I wish the bandaid would come off for this year. We are not ECNL or GA level

But that’s the thing, you dont know if you will repeat, it depends on what GA does, right? Also, have you considered just continuing to have your kid play up or anticipating most clubs will level you out if you can? It seems like getting an extra year of 11v11 is a lot more beneficial than 9v9, but curious if others feel differently.

Different poster, but they will be U13 fall 2025 playing 11v11 if 2013. No playing "down" then, unless leagues come out with more details.

Not we would not play down- stay U13 for 2025 and then U13 again in 2026. Its great to have an extra year of development. Just hate to have teams switch twice when we need to make the switch for fall. Playing up is not an option- my daughter is the smallest 5th grader in her class so playing with 6th/7th graders who have already hit puberty is not in the cards for us

ECNL already has an exception for late year kids to play down during their trapped year. I would imagine there will be exceptions that allow each team to have some SeptQ4 players play down next season.

If the guidance is going to be that Q4 players are permitted to play down next year, doing a limit on how many can do that could lead to strange result. People being competitive, the best Q4 players would play down - if there was a limit - leaving the not as good Q4 players on their BY team. If they're going to permit playing down for Q4s, probably needs to be open to all. Go big or go home.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone list what each league governing body is? I’m confused about GA…USSSA? MLSN is MLS? What about MLSN completion/mlsn2? ODP? Id2?

GA, MLSN, USCS, USYS, AYSO are all member organizations of the USSF. They will all have the ability to choose which registration works best for their clubs and players. We have seen the cards of 3 of those organizations, they will be changing to SY. ODP, ID2 are ID programs for our youth national teams one is USYS, and the other is USCS. They have said that national team players will need to be scouted in their birth year to align with international standards.

ODP also has been forming 2 state teams with 6-month windows (cynics call it a money grab), so even if they switch to SY, the impact likely to be more minimal and more of a shifting of what team players are on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what else do we need to talk about to make it to 1000?

Can we talk about GA/MLS?? Would that help

It would. Are people worried that it is unclear what path GA will take? Do you run a significant risk of having your kid go ECNL SY and then that clubs converts to GA and is BY? Lot’s of people trying out right now with any real clear picture. Seems like a lot of risk. Or is the general sense that if your kid can make an ECNL team SY then they can make GA BY? I am seeing firsthand how difficult it is to break into teams during seasons when they aren’t significantly expanding the roster. Curious how others are thinking about this as they navigate tryouts. Especially the u13/ u14s who aren’t quite as settled into these teams.

The GA/MLSN path is a huge deal for people planning moves for this year and next year. I’d like my kid to stay on the ECNL girl path and don’t want to switch clubs if the club across town may switch to GA this year or next. I don’t think these leagues are understanding that a timely announcement of their specific plan could bring more players into their platform this year instead of next year.

Yes, THIS is the big question now.