What is lowest WISC score would you appeal with

[Anonymous]

Acknowledging that the committee allegedly dislikes WISC, so it’s likely not worth it anyway, we’re trying to decide whether or not to appeal with a WISC. I am curious what is the lowest score you’d submit on appeal? Someone on another thread said don’t bother appealing if FSIQ is below 145 and that seems insane.

[Anonymous]

4 years ago we appealed with a 128 WISC and were successful (134 highest sub score). CogAT was 135, and people on this site said not to submit the WISC, but at least it didn’t hurt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Acknowledging that the committee allegedly dislikes WISC, so it’s likely not worth it anyway, we’re trying to decide whether or not to appeal with a WISC. I am curious what is the lowest score you’d submit on appeal? Someone on another thread said don’t bother appealing if FSIQ is below 145 and that seems insane. [/quote]

That is insane. Very few kids in AAP have an IQ above 145. If you want your kid in AAP, you should write an appeal letter. It doesn't take too much time, and it might result in your child being admitted. I'd include the WISC if the FSIQ is higher than the CogAT VQN, if the WISC VCI is higher than CogAT V, or if WISC FRI is higher than CogAT Q. If none of those apply, I'd still appeal, but not include the WISC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acknowledging that the committee allegedly dislikes WISC, so it’s likely not worth it anyway, we’re trying to decide whether or not to appeal with a WISC. I am curious what is the lowest score you’d submit on appeal? Someone on another thread said don’t bother appealing if FSIQ is below 145 and that seems insane. [/quote]

That is insane. Very few kids in AAP have an IQ above 145. If you want your kid in AAP, you should write an appeal letter. It doesn't take too much time, and it might result in your child being admitted. I'd include the WISC if the FSIQ is higher than the CogAT VQN, if the WISC VCI is higher than CogAT V, or if WISC FRI is higher than CogAT Q. If none of those apply, I'd still appeal, but not include the WISC.

FSIQ is higher, VCI is higher, FRI is lower but cogAT Q was 99%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acknowledging that the committee allegedly dislikes WISC, so it’s likely not worth it anyway, we’re trying to decide whether or not to appeal with a WISC. I am curious what is the lowest score you’d submit on appeal? Someone on another thread said don’t bother appealing if FSIQ is below 145 and that seems insane. [/quote]

That is insane. Very few kids in AAP have an IQ above 145. If you want your kid in AAP, you should write an appeal letter. It doesn't take too much time, and it might result in your child being admitted. I'd include the WISC if the FSIQ is higher than the CogAT VQN, if the WISC VCI is higher than CogAT V, or if WISC FRI is higher than CogAT Q. If none of those apply, I'd still appeal, but not include the WISC.

What are the scores in FSI and other categories? If you are URM or from aTitle 1 school, just appeal.


FSIQ is higher, VCI is higher, FRI is lower but cogAT Q was 99%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acknowledging that the committee allegedly dislikes WISC, so it’s likely not worth it anyway, we’re trying to decide whether or not to appeal with a WISC. I am curious what is the lowest score you’d submit on appeal? Someone on another thread said don’t bother appealing if FSIQ is below 145 and that seems insane. [/quote]

That is insane. Very few kids in AAP have an IQ above 145. If you want your kid in AAP, you should write an appeal letter. It doesn't take too much time, and it might result in your child being admitted. I'd include the WISC if the FSIQ is higher than the CogAT VQN, if the WISC VCI is higher than CogAT V, or if WISC FRI is higher than CogAT Q. If none of those apply, I'd still appeal, but not include the WISC.

FSIQ is higher, VCI is higher, FRI is lower but cogAT Q was 99%

What are the scores in FSI and other categories? If you are URM or from aTitle 1 school, don't worry about scores, just appeal.

[Anonymous]

I’d submit a WISC of 128 or higher. And from what I’ve seen anecdotally, the reviewing committees do actually consider the WiSC from a trusted source. It has helped in appeals recently. And it really should. It is an actual IQ test and it is available for lower cost to families that need it.

[Anonymous]

I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

Disagree, it's a proven method to bolster your claims of giftedness with objective documentation, but your kid has to knock it out of the park. One thing that I've heard is common is to book multiple WISC evals with different psychs to ensure your kid is familiar with the format. This helps them put their best foot forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

Disagree, it's a proven method to bolster your claims of giftedness with objective documentation, but your kid has to knock it out of the park. One thing that I've heard is common is to book multiple WISC evals with different psychs to ensure your kid is familiar with the format. This helps them put their best foot forward.

Multiple WISCs is straight up cheating. The second/subsequent test is invalid if given with a year of the first test. Students taking multiple WISCs like this should be banned from AAP Level IV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

Disagree, it's a proven method to bolster your claims of giftedness with objective documentation, but your kid has to knock it out of the park. One thing that I've heard is common is to book multiple WISC evals with different psychs to ensure your kid is familiar with the format. This helps them put their best foot forward.

Please stop. I know you are on here all the time pushing these claims. I can’t even guess your motives, but this is not happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

Disagree, it's a proven method to bolster your claims of giftedness with objective documentation, but your kid has to knock it out of the park. One thing that I've heard is common is to book multiple WISC evals with different psychs to ensure your kid is familiar with the format. This helps them put their best foot forward.

Multiple WISCs is straight up cheating. The second/subsequent test is invalid if given with a year of the first test. Students taking multiple WISCs like this should be banned from AAP Level IV.

Ignore PP. That is not a thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

Disagree, it's a proven method to bolster your claims of giftedness with objective documentation, but your kid has to knock it out of the park. One thing that I've heard is common is to book multiple WISC evals with different psychs to ensure your kid is familiar with the format. This helps them put their best foot forward.

The psychologist will flag the result as invalid if the kid seems too familiar with the test questions or format. I guess you would need some intensive acting classes in addition to all of the practice WISCs if you want your kid to convince a trained psychologist that he didn't cheat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

Disagree, it's a proven method to bolster your claims of giftedness with objective documentation, but your kid has to knock it out of the park. One thing that I've heard is common is to book multiple WISC evals with different psychs to ensure your kid is familiar with the format. This helps them put their best foot forward.

The psychologist will flag the result as invalid if the kid seems too familiar with the test questions or format. I guess you would need some intensive acting classes in addition to all of the practice WISCs if you want your kid to convince a trained psychologist that he didn't cheat.

Yeah, and if the kid is so "gifted," he might just make a comment to reveal his familiarity. I don't know if it is cheating in a system which is so subjective, but it seems a little desperate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would not get a WiSC to appeal for LIV services. It is not worth the money and time for me. Admittedly, we are happy at our base school and stayed there for the language immersion program so we would have been less concerned about LIV services.

I would look at a WiSC if my child had one done as part of an evaluation for learning issues and I had it on hand or if I was concerned about possible learning issues and it was the first step in exploring those possibilities. The other possibility is if you had one done as part of looking at private schools.

The point of the appeal, as I see it, is to get your child’s packet in front of a different group of people to look at. A well written letter that address any lower marks in the GBRSs and some new work samples have worked for a lot of people and will take less time and money then taking your child to take the WiSC.

Disagree, it's a proven method to bolster your claims of giftedness with objective documentation, but your kid has to knock it out of the park. One thing that I've heard is common is to book multiple WISC evals with different psychs to ensure your kid is familiar with the format. This helps them put their best foot forward.

Multiple WISCs is straight up cheating. The second/subsequent test is invalid if given with a year of the first test. Students taking multiple WISCs like this should be banned from AAP Level IV.

Sure, in the same way that taking prep classes or outside enrichment is cheating but everyone does it.