Average murder suspect in DC has only been arrested 11 times prior

[Anonymous]

Move along folks, nothing to see here:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/verify-homicide-suspects-prior-arrests/65-a66c3b04-a303-4b33-90b1-f94f698e1492

I guess this is the type of progress the city council and mayor have been after. Murder suspects can get arrested 11 times before murdering someone, as opposed to 5 times 20 years earlier. Looks like the city just needs to tolerate a lot more crime before they're allowed to lock up violent criminals who end up murdering people.

[Anonymous]

Governor Bowser - "So you're saying we need to arrest people LESS. Got it!"

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Governor Bowser - "So you're saying we need to arrest people LESS. Got it!"

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Ehh... Contee's obviously not happy about what's going on, and remember, he's Bowser's guy.

[Anonymous]

This stuff is going to make it impossible for people to get fair trials. Jurors will assume that if you got arrested, you must be really bad

[Anonymous]

Another mass shooting today at a funeral home on Benning Rd.

When they catch the shooter - if they catch the shooter - how many times will we discover that he has been arrested?

[Anonymous]

Arrest people makes them murderers. People are being turned to violence by the oppressive criminal justice system. Stop arrests now!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arrest people makes them murderers. People are being turned to violence by the oppressive criminal justice system. Stop arrests now!

Might as well. Little happens after a criminal is arrested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This stuff is going to make it impossible for people to get fair trials. Jurors will assume that if you got arrested, you must be really bad

It's a logical conclusion. At least after the 5th or 6th arrest. You probably are pretty bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This stuff is going to make it impossible for people to get fair trials. Jurors will assume that if you got arrested, you must be really bad

It's a logical conclusion. At least after the 5th or 6th arrest. You probably are pretty bad.

Can we limit the number of jury trials someone can get in a lifetime too? Its really obvious the system is just being abused.

[Anonymous]

I think what it says is if you want to stop the cycle of violence in DC, you have to work harder on kids. Those of us who work in schools know that you can see the writing on the wall in the early grades. Violence as a way of life gets passed down in families and in neighborhoods. People focus on the cost of interventions but a lifetime of trials and incarceration is the most expensive, to say nothing of victims. The only way to fix it is to work harder on intervening with kids. Once a kid is a teen who’s shot someone, I think it’s much harder. Families, or those in families who care, often try by relocating the kid out of state, which is semi-effective. But they often just come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think what it says is if you want to stop the cycle of violence in DC, you have to work harder on kids. Those of us who work in schools know that you can see the writing on the wall in the early grades. Violence as a way of life gets passed down in families and in neighborhoods. People focus on the cost of interventions but a lifetime of trials and incarceration is the most expensive, to say nothing of victims. The only way to fix it is to work harder on intervening with kids. Once a kid is a teen who’s shot someone, I think it’s much harder. Families, or those in families who care, often try by relocating the kid out of state, which is semi-effective. But they often just come back.

I agree 100%, but how do you break what is a cultural norm in some families/communities?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This stuff is going to make it impossible for people to get fair trials. Jurors will assume that if you got arrested, you must be really bad

There are fair trials in DC now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think what it says is if you want to stop the cycle of violence in DC, you have to work harder on kids. Those of us who work in schools know that you can see the writing on the wall in the early grades. Violence as a way of life gets passed down in families and in neighborhoods. People focus on the cost of interventions but a lifetime of trials and incarceration is the most expensive, to say nothing of victims. The only way to fix it is to work harder on intervening with kids. Once a kid is a teen who’s shot someone, I think it’s much harder. Families, or those in families who care, often try by relocating the kid out of state, which is semi-effective. But they often just come back.

I don’t think any of this is news. The Wire explorer this pretty thoroughly 20 years ago, and it also was the motivating premise behind things like the summer employment program for District kids, and breaking up the massive housing projects as the concentrated poverty was known to contribute to these poor outcomes. Years ago it was often blamed on lack of economic opportunities forcing kids to turn to drug sales but the economy has been good, unemployment low and minimum wage high. Incarceration rates are also significantly down — one of the older theories was that with so many fathers incarcerated, kids didn’t have any role models except that.
I think part of the problem is celebrities who make the gangster life look cool. And the ease of getting cheap guns due to cheap imported weapons and lack of gun control. And it’s important to remember that it’s a very small percentage of people causing almost all of the problems.

[Anonymous]

Crime is out of control

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what it says is if you want to stop the cycle of violence in DC, you have to work harder on kids. Those of us who work in schools know that you can see the writing on the wall in the early grades. Violence as a way of life gets passed down in families and in neighborhoods. People focus on the cost of interventions but a lifetime of trials and incarceration is the most expensive, to say nothing of victims. The only way to fix it is to work harder on intervening with kids. Once a kid is a teen who’s shot someone, I think it’s much harder. Families, or those in families who care, often try by relocating the kid out of state, which is semi-effective. But they often just come back.

I don’t think any of this is news. The Wire explorer this pretty thoroughly 20 years ago, and it also was the motivating premise behind things like the summer employment program for District kids, and breaking up the massive housing projects as the concentrated poverty was known to contribute to these poor outcomes. Years ago it was often blamed on lack of economic opportunities forcing kids to turn to drug sales but the economy has been good, unemployment low and minimum wage high. Incarceration rates are also significantly down — one of the older theories was that with so many fathers incarcerated, kids didn’t have any role models except that.
I think part of the problem is celebrities who make the gangster life look cool. And the ease of getting cheap guns due to cheap imported weapons and lack of gun control. And it’s important to remember that it’s a very small percentage of people causing almost all of the problems.

It's not that small.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5996985/#:~:text=We%20estimate%20that%203%20%25%20of,African%20American%20adult%20male%20population.