"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, so states and school districts better start getting their shit together then. Dumping the standards still doesn't change the fact that it was the states and school districts that screwed the pooch, as opposed to it being a standards problem.



This is the kind of arrogance that is not endearing the states to the standards. With this kind of love and support, who would want to stay with the CC?


Ah, got you. We're all supposed to just shut up, roll over, play dead, and put up with grotesque mediocrity and dysfunction in our public school systems lest we come off as "arrogant."


Hey, you're the one whose kid is at a charter school. I'm the one who is working with "at risk" kids . . . hardly shutting up and playing dead on this stuff.

You have distanced yourself from the reality on the ground. You have a child at a charter and you sit in an office looking at "data". Try my life for a while and then I might give you and your data some credibility. OK?

LMAO! Yeah, I've distanced myself from reality on the ground, where god forbid we have standards, god forbid we have testing, god forbid we have accountability, god forbid we should push kids to their potential, god forbid kids should ever fail at anything or have to try anything over when they didn't master it the first time around, and in fact, why don't we just go ahead and make schools glorified daycares already?

Your hatred of children comes through loud and clear. Either they are little academic superstars, learning everything in lock step, or they are worthless.

Bully for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

LMAO! Yeah, I've distanced myself from reality on the ground, where god forbid we have standards, god forbid we have testing, god forbid we have accountability, god forbid we should push kids to their potential, god forbid kids should ever fail at anything or have to try anything over when they didn't master it the first time around, and in fact, why don't we just go ahead and make schools glorified daycares already?

Have you ever been in a public school? Doesn't sound like it. Some of them were great places before all this testing.

Right, which is why we graduated millions of kids who were at best semiliterate, unable to make change, unable to point out the Pacific Ocean on a world map, who think Abe Lincoln was one of the Founding Fathers, and that Ben Franklin was one of our first Presidents, et cetera....

Great place maybe, but education sure wasn't so great...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, so states and school districts better start getting their shit together then. Dumping the standards still doesn't change the fact that it was the states and school districts that screwed the pooch, as opposed to it being a standards problem.



This is the kind of arrogance that is not endearing the states to the standards. With this kind of love and support, who would want to stay with the CC?


Ah, got you. We're all supposed to just shut up, roll over, play dead, and put up with grotesque mediocrity and dysfunction in our public school systems lest we come off as "arrogant."


Hey, you're the one whose kid is at a charter school. I'm the one who is working with "at risk" kids . . . hardly shutting up and playing dead on this stuff.

You have distanced yourself from the reality on the ground. You have a child at a charter and you sit in an office looking at "data". Try my life for a while and then I might give you and your data some credibility. OK?

LMAO! Yeah, I've distanced myself from reality on the ground, where god forbid we have standards, god forbid we have testing, god forbid we have accountability, god forbid we should push kids to their potential, god forbid kids should ever fail at anything or have to try anything over when they didn't master it the first time around, and in fact, why don't we just go ahead and make schools glorified daycares already?

Your hatred of children comes through loud and clear. Either they are little academic superstars, learning everything in lock step, or they are worthless.

Bully for you.

You have that completely backwards. I love children. What I don't love is the system that I feel has been failing them for decades.

[Anonymous]

LMAO! Yeah, I've distanced myself from reality on the ground, where god forbid we have standards, god forbid we have testing, god forbid we have accountability, god forbid we should push kids to their potential, god forbid kids should ever fail at anything or have to try anything over when they didn't master it the first time around, and in fact, why don't we just go ahead and make schools glorified daycares already

You act like NOTHING was happening before Common Core came along. We have had standards and testing and accountability and pushing kids and kids failing and remediation, etc. for eons. The Common Core is not some kind of novel thing. It's an expensive thing that has yet to be refined and processed.

[Anonymous]

Right, which is why we graduated millions of kids who were at best semiliterate, unable to make change, unable to point out the Pacific Ocean on a world map, who think Abe Lincoln was one of the Founding Fathers, and that Ben Franklin was one of our first Presidents, et cetera....

Great place maybe, but education sure wasn't so great...

Funny. I think we are the greatest country in the world. Maybe you don't. But, we didn't get there with Common Core.

[Anonymous]

You have that completely backwards. I love children. What I don't love is the system that I feel has been failing them for decades.

Most kids did just fine under the system we've had.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, so states and school districts better start getting their shit together then. Dumping the standards still doesn't change the fact that it was the states and school districts that screwed the pooch, as opposed to it being a standards problem.



This is the kind of arrogance that is not endearing the states to the standards. With this kind of love and support, who would want to stay with the CC?


Ah, got you. We're all supposed to just shut up, roll over, play dead, and put up with grotesque mediocrity and dysfunction in our public school systems lest we come off as "arrogant."


Hey, you're the one whose kid is at a charter school. I'm the one who is working with "at risk" kids . . . hardly shutting up and playing dead on this stuff.

You have distanced yourself from the reality on the ground. You have a child at a charter and you sit in an office looking at "data". Try my life for a while and then I might give you and your data some credibility. OK?

LMAO! Yeah, I've distanced myself from reality on the ground, where god forbid we have standards, god forbid we have testing, god forbid we have accountability, god forbid we should push kids to their potential, god forbid kids should ever fail at anything or have to try anything over when they didn't master it the first time around, and in fact, why don't we just go ahead and make schools glorified daycares already?

Your hatred of children comes through loud and clear. Either they are little academic superstars, learning everything in lock step, or they are worthless.

Bully for you.

You have that completely backwards. I love children. What I don't love is the system that I feel has been failing them for decades.

Common Core doubles down on the failing system for kids. It's like caging them and then throwing in a match.

[Anonymous]

Have you ever been in a public school? Doesn't sound like it. Some of them were great places before all this testing.



Right, which is why we graduated millions of kids who were at best semiliterate, unable to make change, unable to point out the Pacific Ocean on a world map, who think Abe Lincoln was one of the Founding Fathers, and that Ben Franklin was one of our first Presidents, et cetera....

Great place maybe, but education sure wasn't so great...

Wonderful that you believe all of that. I will let my students know what you think of them next time they service your car, prepare your restaurant meal and serve it, cut your hair, repair your roads, fix your plumbing, service your HVAC, draw plans for your landscaping, etc. I will ask them if they can tell you about Ben Franklin and then I will say that they are not worthy to be there working for you because you expect them to be able to point to the Pacific Ocean before they can work for you.

Millions of worthless people? You underestimate people by a long shot. Someone might not meet the standard for who Ben Franklin is, but that says absolutely nothing about what they CAN do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NEA, AFT and other organizations representing millions of teachers DID ask for input and did outreach. Seems to me that you didn't hear about it is your own problem.


No, they did not ask for input. They did not do "outreach" on this. That is really not the job of the unions.

Yes, they did ask for input and they got lots of input, too - and that's proven. They asked, regardless of whether it was their job to ask for it or not.

But I would contend that in fact it is part of their job as a union, to enhance and improve respect of teachers as a profession.

I belonged to the union when I taught I was never once asked for anything but money. FWIW, the union leaders at hq decided who the union would support in elections. They did not ask the members.

Oh, no... they didn't support the communist Kenyan muslin, did they?

If you're going to be sarcastic, you might consider spelling important words correctly.

That was part of the sarcasm, nimrod. From the SNL skit mocking the confused lady at a McCain rally. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a85_1243996317

Good to know where you get your political information!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Have you ever been in a public school? Doesn't sound like it. Some of them were great places before all this testing.



Right, which is why we graduated millions of kids who were at best semiliterate, unable to make change, unable to point out the Pacific Ocean on a world map, who think Abe Lincoln was one of the Founding Fathers, and that Ben Franklin was one of our first Presidents, et cetera....

Great place maybe, but education sure wasn't so great...

Wonderful that you believe all of that. I will let my students know what you think of them next time they service your car, prepare your restaurant meal and serve it, cut your hair, repair your roads, fix your plumbing, service your HVAC, draw plans for your landscaping, etc. I will ask them if they can tell you about Ben Franklin and then I will say that they are not worthy to be there working for you because you expect them to be able to point to the Pacific Ocean before they can work for you.

Millions of worthless people? You underestimate people by a long shot. Someone might not meet the standard for who Ben Franklin is, but that says absolutely nothing about what they CAN do.

Unfortunately, you are wasted your breath. This CCSS supporter in the PP only values students who are College and (White Collar) Career Ready. No one else has any value.

[Anonymous]

wasting ^^

[Anonymous]

I am an anti-CC poster who feels that CC is doing more to keep our kids from learning about Ben Franklin than before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NEA, AFT and other organizations representing millions of teachers DID ask for input and did outreach. Seems to me that you didn't hear about it is your own problem.


No, they did not ask for input. They did not do "outreach" on this. That is really not the job of the unions.

Yes, they did ask for input and they got lots of input, too - and that's proven. They asked, regardless of whether it was their job to ask for it or not.

But I would contend that in fact it is part of their job as a union, to enhance and improve respect of teachers as a profession.

I belonged to the union when I taught I was never once asked for anything but money. FWIW, the union leaders at hq decided who the union would support in elections. They did not ask the members.

Oh, no... they didn't support the communist Kenyan muslin, did they?

If you're going to be sarcastic, you might consider spelling important words correctly.

That was part of the sarcasm, nimrod. From the SNL skit mocking the confused lady at a McCain rally. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a85_1243996317

Good to know where you get your political information!

Surprising that you are so tonedeaf...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

LMAO! Yeah, I've distanced myself from reality on the ground, where god forbid we have standards, god forbid we have testing, god forbid we have accountability, god forbid we should push kids to their potential, god forbid kids should ever fail at anything or have to try anything over when they didn't master it the first time around, and in fact, why don't we just go ahead and make schools glorified daycares already

You act like NOTHING was happening before Common Core came along. We have had standards and testing and accountability and pushing kids and kids failing and remediation, etc. for eons. The Common Core is not some kind of novel thing. It's an expensive thing that has yet to be refined and processed.

Nobody said nothing was happening before Common Core came along... standards have been evolving for decades - but the anti-CC folks sure seem to act as though this were all new, unfounded and bizarre...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Right, which is why we graduated millions of kids who were at best semiliterate, unable to make change, unable to point out the Pacific Ocean on a world map, who think Abe Lincoln was one of the Founding Fathers, and that Ben Franklin was one of our first Presidents, et cetera....

Great place maybe, but education sure wasn't so great...

Funny. I think we are the greatest country in the world. Maybe you don't. But, we didn't get there with Common Core.

You need to get out more. There are a lot of areas in which the USA is not the greatest.