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https://www.the74million.org/article/students-benefit-tough-grading-standards/
Your key paragraphs: 'Across several metrics of academic success, students who were exposed to higher grading standards fared better than their peers. Compared with students who had previously demonstrated similar levels of math performance, those assigned to stricter graders saw larger scoring gains. Notably, those effects were both sizable and linear, meaning that the tighter the grading practices — moving from the easiest-grading quarter to the very hardest — the larger the improvement on test scores. Students of tougher graders also maintained some of their scoring advantage into the next two classes of North Carolina’s math sequence, geometry and Algebra II. The effects were actually twice as large in Algebra II as they were in geometry, a nuance the authors specifically cited in the paper: Perhaps because of the similarities in content between the two levels of algebra, they theorized, students who were formerly held to higher standards did especially well in the later class, even though the effects should have faded more because of the further passage of time. “That suggests this wasn’t a pure grade-chasing effect where students crammed more for the test so that they could do better and get the grade they needed,” Gershenson explained. “Instead, it makes me think that there was some real learning that happened and was retained.”' This has already been impressively demonstrated for college students, at IIRC the United State Air Force Academy, so it's nice to see something similar replicated at the high school level. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3767273 "This work disentangles aspects of teacher quality that impact student learning and performance. We exploit detailed data from post-secondary education that links students from randomly assigned instructors in introductory-level courses to the students' performances in follow-on courses for a wide variety of subjects. For a range of first-semester courses, we have both an objective score (based on common exams graded by committee) and a subjective grade provided by the instructor. We find that instructors who help boost the common final exam scores of their students also boost their performance in the follow-on course. Instructors who tend to give out easier subjective grades however dramatically hurt subsequent student performance. Exploring a variety of mechanisms, we suggest that instructors harm students not by "teaching to the test," but rather by producing misleading signals regarding the difficulty of the subject and the "soft skills" needed for college success. This effect is stronger in non-STEM fields, among female students, and among extroverted students. Faculty that are well-liked by students—and thus likely prized by university administrators—and considered to be easy have particularly pernicious effects on subsequent student performance." There are sometimes complaints in private school forum about how their kids are having a difficult time getting into elite colleges because the relevant school's harsher grading standards make As more difficult to achieve. Behold the trade-off. |
| This is the complete opposite of what I learned while getting my MEd. |
| I always liked tough graders and felt I learned more so this is confirmation bias for me, anyway |
| Yep. The teachers I learned the most from were strict, no nonsense, focused on instruction. I did worse in classes with “nice teachers” who often had little control of the classroom. |
| This is completely obvious. |
It's not for no reason that studies on the impact of teachers receiving a masters in education will often show that these teachers become less effective. |
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The world has changed since our day.
Grades are inflated. Parents attack regularly and severely. As a HS teacher, I rarely give lower grades anymore. It isn't worth it for the salary I make. |
Ed courses are pretty much useless. At least that is my observation as a career changer. I try to ignore most of the useless advice |
| This is something obvious that is good to see confirmed. My kid is only in 5th and I have really been starting to see how the aversion to clear and strict tests and assignments is slowing down his learning. I almost feel like there are so many other assessments teachers have to do that they have given up on core grading standards. |
You learned kids shouldn’t be graded hard? |
This would be best for a lot of kids. Bring back formal instruction, textbooks, homework. |
I'm a different poster, but hard grading crushes fragile self-esteem, causes children to be externally instead of internally motivated, and *handwave* something about equity. Usually unmentioned: it's a lot easier to just give everyone an A. This results in get a particular brand of flakey lefty -- and it's nearly always a lefty -- out there burbling: ""Grades are not a representation of student learning, as hard as it is for us to break the mindset that if the student got an A it means they learned," said Jody Greene, special adviser to the provost for educational equity and academic success at UCSC"" https://www.npr.org/2023/03/26/1164832694/to-help-new-students-adapt-some-colleges-are-eliminating-grades or "This morning I gave all 50 of my students A grades. Then I took a shower, danced, ran to the beach, swam and cried tears of joy. For the first time in years I feel like a real professor again." https://twitter.com/timeshighered/status/1636298787713843200?t=4dNlqNq3uuQec5wgECixeQ&s=19 |
| I mean, duh? |
I don’t think much of teacher education is grounded in reality these days. That’s depressing. And explains how we got the Lucy Caulkins crap spread around the country. |
Can you back this up? I buy that MEds are, generally speaking, useless to just barely useful. But your statement is surprising. -NP with a MS Ed |