How does Principal Placement Work?

[Anonymous]

I’ve just read here about AAP principal placement. What is this and how does it work? Do parents initiate consideration of their child or are kids selected by admin/local teachers? Are kids who are placed this way notified by email at the same time other AAP decisions are sent?

[Anonymous]

It is not a thing at all schools. At a school that does LLIV (not a center) using a self contained classroom model (not the cluster model), there will sometimes be 22 level iv students but there need to be 26 students in the classroom to balance class sizes across the grade. Then the principal (or teachers or aart or whomever) will identify 4 highly capable students to round out the classroom. It is a one year placement.

The next year, maybe the class need 6 kids because a few moved away, the following year they don’t need any because more students were identified or the classes are balanced at 23 kids now. Continued placement is not guaranteed. Kids are not “officially” marked as level iv students, so not eligible for level iv courses in middle school. You do not apply. You will not be notified before enrollment is solidified and classes are made for the fall.

This does not happen at center schools where classrooms are fully level iv students, or at schools where they do LLIV through a cluster model where every classroom is mixed ability levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not a thing at all schools. At a school that does LLIV (not a center) using a self contained classroom model (not the cluster model), there will sometimes be 22 level iv students but there need to be 26 students in the classroom to balance class sizes across the grade. Then the principal (or teachers or aart or whomever) will identify 4 highly capable students to round out the classroom. It is a one year placement.

The next year, maybe the class need 6 kids because a few moved away, the following year they don’t need any because more students were identified or the classes are balanced at 23 kids now. Continued placement is not guaranteed. Kids are not “officially” marked as level iv students, so not eligible for level iv courses in middle school. You do not apply. You will not be notified before enrollment is solidified and classes are made for the fall.

This does not happen at center schools where classrooms are fully level iv students, or at schools where they do LLIV through a cluster model where every classroom is mixed ability levels.

I'm fairly certain that there are some principal placed kids at our center.

[Anonymous]

Request it and make sure your student is a high performer.

[Anonymous]

This is only possible if there is room in the class. It is used to even out the student numbers between classes. They probably can’t guarantee until August.

[Anonymous]

Make a cash “donation” to the school in an envelope marked for the principal.

[Anonymous]

At our chill, you need to be a cute mom and flirt with the principal. It has nothing to do with the PTA.

[Anonymous]

Our LLIV lost half its most recent class to the center and filled it with guests, most of whom are the typical hard-worker, rule-follower, good handwriting type that aren't far ahead academically.

There are a couple curveballs in there though, kids who in some cases were behind academically, have severe ADD yet are very creative etc. I think they also seek neurodiversity.

[Anonymous]

These responses are so out there. I’m fugly, barely volunteered for the PTA, never made any cash donations directly to principal, and never had the savvy to request my kid to be principal placed bc I didn’t know that was a thing at first. Kid was level III though. So if appeal doesn’t work, refer to level III services?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve just read here about AAP principal placement. What is this and how does it work? Do parents initiate consideration of their child or are kids selected by admin/local teachers? Are kids who are placed this way notified by email at the same time other AAP decisions are sent?

I teach at LL4. First they put all of the Level 4 kids in one class and then they fill it with other students. So this year I have 18 Level 4 kids and 8 other students who are mostly Level 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve just read here about AAP principal placement. What is this and how does it work? Do parents initiate consideration of their child or are kids selected by admin/local teachers? Are kids who are placed this way notified by email at the same time other AAP decisions are sent?

I teach at LL4. First they put all of the Level 4 kids in one class and then they fill it with other students. So this year I have 18 Level 4 kids and 8 other students who are mostly Level 3.

In general, do you see Level 3 students struggling more with the work than LLIV students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve just read here about AAP principal placement. What is this and how does it work? Do parents initiate consideration of their child or are kids selected by admin/local teachers? Are kids who are placed this way notified by email at the same time other AAP decisions are sent?

I teach at LL4. First they put all of the Level 4 kids in one class and then they fill it with other students. So this year I have 18 Level 4 kids and 8 other students who are mostly Level 3.

In general, do you see Level 3 students struggling more with the work than LLIV students?

Honestly two of my highest students are Level 3. I put them up for screening. You can not tell who is Level 4 or 3, when you walk in my room.

[Anonymous]

PP, I will add some of my Level 4 students should not be Level 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not a thing at all schools. At a school that does LLIV (not a center) using a self contained classroom model (not the cluster model), there will sometimes be 22 level iv students but there need to be 26 students in the classroom to balance class sizes across the grade. Then the principal (or teachers or aart or whomever) will identify 4 highly capable students to round out the classroom. It is a one year placement.

The next year, maybe the class need 6 kids because a few moved away, the following year they don’t need any because more students were identified or the classes are balanced at 23 kids now. Continued placement is not guaranteed. Kids are not “officially” marked as level iv students, so not eligible for level iv courses in middle school. You do not apply. You will not be notified before enrollment is solidified and classes are made for the fall.

This does not happen at center schools where classrooms are fully level iv students, or at schools where they do LLIV through a cluster model where every classroom is mixed ability levels.

I'm fairly certain that there are some principal placed kids at our center.

I have also seen principal placing at our center school (not my child), but I know one year they explicitly did a Level III/Level IV combined class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, I will add some of my Level 4 students should not be Level 4.

I have heard this from the LLIV teacher in my child's school (my child is not LLIV, the teacher is a neighbor).