Vocal tics

[Anonymous]

Anybody’s tween boy have this? Please describe experiences. Kid is sensory oriented in general, normal intellect/high IQ. No motor tics. Just vocal.

[Anonymous]

Common with high functioning autism. It's a form of stimming and part of echolalia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Common with high functioning autism. It's a form of stimming and part of echolalia

WTF? Tics - vocal or other - are definitely not stims nor are they part of echolalia! Stims are 'self-stimulating' behaviors and are voluntary. Tics are involuntary. Echolalia, sometimes, are part of tics/Tourettes but can also be completely unrelated.

[Anonymous]

My oldest DS (now 20) and my youngest (now 16) both have ADHD/anxiety and had vocal/motor/complex tics growing up. We haven't seen tics in either of them in a while. They seemed to peak in upper ES/early MS and by the time they were halfway through HS, they had faded completely.

[Anonymous]

There's habit therapy for tics. Can find a virtual provider. They teach competing thing to do that's less noticeable. Our DC's gets soo much worse if she eats candy (sugar or food dyes?), or takes antihistamines, including those antihistamines added to some cough medicines or Singulair. Also screen time makes it worse, especially tik tok.

[Anonymous]

My DD has them. They come and go, she also has motor tics, which I guess means Tourette’s. She is 12 now. They were most intense when she was 9-11, but they’ve quieted down, and she masks them so they’re hardly noticeable to an untrained eye. They’re just funny sounds and movements. In her case, it seemed like viruses activated them. After Covid (delta), she had motor and vocal tics so bad. It was horrible to see and I was distraught, fearing she’d always have this condition. But after a few months they settled. She has a completely normal social life, does well in school, is happy etc.

[Anonymous]

Both my boys have Tourette’s. It’s hardly noticeable when things are going well. It’s prominent when they are stressed.

They are also dyslexic/ADHD.

School is their biggest stressor so far.

Both in college thriving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's habit therapy for tics. Can find a virtual provider. They teach competing thing to do that's less noticeable. Our DC's gets soo much worse if she eats candy (sugar or food dyes?), or takes antihistamines, including those antihistamines added to some cough medicines or Singulair. Also screen time makes it worse, especially tik tok.

Really? Tik tok? I’ve read those articles but i couldn’t understand how watching videos would make tics worse?

[Anonymous]

My teen has Tourette’s and adhd. We do the behavior therapy at childrens but it didn’t help much. She’s had them for about 4 years now and I don’t think they are much better but they are not disabling. We’ve also tried magnesium supplements which some studies show help. Stress definitely makes them worse. I also try to tell teachers as she initially got into trouble from teachers who thought she was being disruptive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's habit therapy for tics. Can find a virtual provider. They teach competing thing to do that's less noticeable. Our DC's gets soo much worse if she eats candy (sugar or food dyes?), or takes antihistamines, including those antihistamines added to some cough medicines or Singulair. Also screen time makes it worse, especially tik tok.

Really? Tik tok? I’ve read those articles but i couldn’t understand how watching videos would make tics worse?

Yeah, it should be called Tic Tok. There's also a term of art i cant think used by clinicians for teens or tweens whose tics started because of tik tok or screen time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Common with high functioning autism. It's a form of stimming and part of echolalia

WTF? Tics - vocal or other - are definitely not stims nor are they part of echolalia! Stims are 'self-stimulating' behaviors and are voluntary. Tics are involuntary. Echolalia, sometimes, are part of tics/Tourettes but can also be completely unrelated.

From autism parenting magazine

Why does vocal stimming happen?
Self stimulatory repetitive behaviors and movements can provide “sensory input” for children with ASD, helping them cope with anything stressful in their environment, or helping them to focus or express their feelings. It can be calming because it is a predictable behavior they control.

[Anonymous]

The verbal stimming and sensory oriented behavior should absolutely have you in with a neuropsycholist for an evaluation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Common with high functioning autism. It's a form of stimming and part of echolalia

WTF? Tics - vocal or other - are definitely not stims nor are they part of echolalia! Stims are 'self-stimulating' behaviors and are voluntary. Tics are involuntary. Echolalia, sometimes, are part of tics/Tourettes but can also be completely unrelated.

From autism parenting magazine

Why does vocal stimming happen?
Self stimulatory repetitive behaviors and movements can provide “sensory input” for children with ASD, helping them cope with anything stressful in their environment, or helping them to focus or express their feelings. It can be calming because it is a predictable behavior they control.

Yes, stims are voluntary, controlled behaviors. Tics are not.

A tic is a problem in which a part of the body moves repeatedly, quickly, suddenly, and uncontrollably. Tics can occur in any body part, such as the face, shoulders, hands, or legs. They can be stopped voluntarily for brief periods. Sounds that are made involuntarily (such as throat clearing or sniffing) are called vocal tics.

https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/Tic-Disorders-035.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's habit therapy for tics. Can find a virtual provider. They teach competing thing to do that's less noticeable. Our DC's gets soo much worse if she eats candy (sugar or food dyes?), or takes antihistamines, including those antihistamines added to some cough medicines or Singulair. Also screen time makes it worse, especially tik tok.

Really? Tik tok? I’ve read those articles but i couldn’t understand how watching videos would make tics worse?

Tic Tok tics aren’t “real” organic tics. They are imitative and what doctors call psychogenic or “functional.” They are psychiatric. Other tics are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The verbal stimming and sensory oriented behavior should absolutely have you in with a neuropsycholist for an evaluation.

What is the point? I can see his issues, and I know he will either grow out of them or not. I support and love him. Nothing is going to change his brain wiring.