Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

Since you're not interested in proportional responses, I guess a wholesale slaughter of 900K Israelis will be OK in your book. Right? Since Israel has killed nearly 30 Palestinians for every Israeli killed on 10/7, the Palestinians get to return the favor, right?

The important part is that everyone gets to blame that slaughter of 900K on the Israelis themselves since, according to that logic, but for the Gaza genocide, there would be no Israeli slaughter in response.

Even though you have no right to feel sickened by that because it's based on your sick, deranged logic, it makes me sick.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

[Anonymous]

Israel has slaughtered 32,000 Palestinians since 10/7. Congratulations to Israel, Bibi and the Zionists for turning the world against Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

Since you're not interested in proportional responses, I guess a wholesale slaughter of 900K Israelis will be OK in your book. Right? Since Israel has killed nearly 30 Palestinians for every Israeli killed on 10/7, the Palestinians get to return the favor, right?

Proportionality? What happened in 2022 or 2023 prior to 10/7 that justified or deserved the massacre of over 1000 Israelis?

Do you really think it's legitimate to slaughter over 1000 people because of some jackoff settlers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel has slaughtered 32,000 Palestinians since 10/7. Congratulations to Israel, Bibi and the Zionists for turning the world against Jews.

Nobody should be against Jews. People can and should hate the Zionists all they want, but let's never judge anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. Zionists have perverted Judaism for personal gain and power and have weaponized it to dehumanize and massacre Palestinians. Zionism is undoubtedly a hideous and racist creed, but please, let's recognize the difference between Jews and Zionists. Many Jews hate Zionism.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel and Hamas. Most of the world has no respect for either at this point.

None. They are morally equivalent.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Again, none of this would be happening were it not for 10/7. You cannot escape that.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Collective punishment - well let's look at that...
72% of Palestinians said they support the 10/7 massacre. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/
That's a huge majority and certainly they knew the consequences going into it.

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

Since you're not interested in proportional responses, I guess a wholesale slaughter of 900K Israelis will be OK in your book. Right? Since Israel has killed nearly 30 Palestinians for every Israeli killed on 10/7, the Palestinians get to return the favor, right?

Proportionality? What happened in 2022 or 2023 prior to 10/7 that justified or deserved the massacre of over 1000 Israelis?

Do you really think it's legitimate to slaughter over 1000 people because of some jackoff settlers?

You ask that question, then they tell you that Israel committed original sin and so every Israel - and, sure, Jew - everywhere at all times deserves to die.

[Anonymous]

Good 3/22 article by Peter Beinart in the NYT titled "The Great Rupture in American Jewish Life": https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/22/opinion/israel-american-jews-zionism.html

It discusses the disconnect between older American Jews, many of whom have somehow reconciled Zionism with liberal values, and younger Jews, who are much more likely to see Zionism as "a racist creed."

There's some commentary on this article at https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/03/liberalism-and-zionism-in-contemporary-american-jewish-politics
The comments are often quite entertaining.

[Anonymous]

What in the heck is going on in al-Shifa Hospital???

According to eyewitnesses on the ground, patients were evacuated, and then some of them were murdered by bulldozers. Mosab Abu Toha has a photograph up on social media of two severed legs, one encased in bandages (the victim was a patient in the hospital), surrounded by bulldozer treads.

Then there's this story on Twitter: https://twitter.com/search?q=trhxianl&src=typed_query
It's about a group of people at the hospital who were stripped, tied, and then shot for sport.

There are reports of women being raped and executed.

Patients are dying inside the hospital from lack of water, food, and healthcare: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/5-patients-trapped-in-al-shifa-hospital-killed-gaza-health-ministry-/3172845#:~:text=No%20water%2C%20food%2C%20health%20services,hospital%20for%206%20consecutive%20days&text=At%20least%20five%20Palestinian%20patients,the%20hospital%20for%20six%20days.

The IDF is burning homes near al-Shifa hospital.

All of these are war crimes. We need to do something now, but what ... ???

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Anonymous wrote:For the few of you pro-“Palestinian” Liberals who are not flagrant and open Hamas supporters, you should see this:

https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-issues-2024-election-warning-joe-biden-1882459#:~:text=U.S.%20President%20Joe%20Biden's,Palestinian%20Hamas%20movement%20told%20Newsweek.

For the few of you who are not openly anti-Semitic, Hamas supporters, you are being used to bring Hamas’ Jewish genocide agenda to the United States, they are no longer even hiding it - Petitioning the American President openly to blatantly support their Genocide.

You can still turn around, and do the right thing. You can admit your underlying anti-Semitism, and decide to embrace Israel, and support their mission without reservation in their desperate attempt to survive as a nation. But that time is fading fast, and it takes strong, clear actions to turn this Country around and to support Israel.

I am not a "liberal", a "Hamas supporter", or "anti-Semitic".

There is no world in which I would support and cheer on deliberate state-sponsored starvation.

1) If you do not support Israel in their mission at this point, you are either a Hamas Supporter and anti-Semitic, or incredibly naive.

2) Israel is giving Palestine aid. They just aren’t handing it over to Hamas/UNRWA to be sold to fund their active genocide against the Jewish people.

1. No, that is not anywhere close to being true and you are not only harming Israel but also making the term anti-Semitic meaningless by pushing such obviously disengenuous spin.


2. No they aren't. Israel itself is giving zero aid. Any aid that enters is entirely coming from and being paid for by third party countries like the US. Israel, according to its own Finance Minister, is enacting collective punishment and deliberately trying to starve the population of Gaza. This is shown not only by his own statements but also by their known actions and has been confirmed by a host of neutral third party countries and organizations. There's a reason why the US is building a jetty and airdropping rations.

1) Suit yourself. But when Jewish people say you are anti-Semitic and promoting Jewish genocide, maybe you should listen. In the 1920s what do you think Jewish people were saying? We have been through this again. And promised that it would happen never again, but here we are…

2) And why should they? Israel is letting hundreds of trucks of aid in a day, after careful vetting and required safety inspections. Which is getting increasingly hard, because after Israel cutting of Hamas’ UNRWA arm, now Hamas has been increasingly getting violent, attacking aid convoys, and putting the brave Israeli and Egyptian aid drivers’ lives at risk, all because of just how successful Israel has been in providing aid to the Palestinian people while preventing the same aid from being used by Hamas in their genocidal mission. In a decade, the Israeli aid mission will be studied as an example of Humanitarian aid done right in a tense, harsh situation.

But you are moving goalposts. First it was that “OMG Israel isn’t letting aid in!” Now apparently it is, “OMG Israel isn’t single handedly funding the aid shipments to a country that actively prays for the genocide of the Jewish population! How dare they!”

Oh my goodness. I have to laugh .

There wouldn’t be need for humanitarian aid if there wasn’t a famine .

The first thing Israel did was cut off water and fuel and the first things struck were the bakeries and the flour mills in this war . Kinda hard to farm , cook, or import food or run a store or a hospital without electricity, water, or fuel

Let that be a lesson the next time they want to attack Israel.

And why haven't they been able to produce their own water and electricity in 18 years?

Maybe if they concentrated on developing their 25 miles of coast on the Mediterranean instead of constantly waging war on Israel, they'd be an independent, thriving state today? Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005 and immediately, they destroyed much of the infrastructure in anger and began attacking Israel from Gaza.

NO sympathy.

Hamas stole all the money they were given to do those things and tore up the water pipes and used them to make rockets to fire at Israeli civilians.

Also, it takes ZERO mental gymnastics to understand that there would be no famine problem at all in Palestine right now if Palestine hadn't attacked Israel on 10/7. That's just a fact.

NP. Nobody buys the outrageous lie that Gaza would have been left in peace if 10/7 had not happened.

How conveniently you forget that Israel was 18 years (18 YEARS!) into a full, complete land, sea and air blockade of Gaza when 10/7 occurred! Those people had their land stolen by Israel 75 years ago, have been under 24/7 threat of extrajudicial killing since then, and have been imprisoned by Israel for no crime other than being inconvenient natives since … but you want to pretend that 10/7 is the real story here. GTFOH.

Simple test of logic: Were Palestinians starving prior to 10/7? No.

This is because of 10/7.

Done. End of story. No amount of your dumb spin and excuse-making will change that. NONE.

No, it’s because Israel has lost its soul and gone super right wing. It’s gone to war with Palestinians several times before and never facilitated a famine. I remember back in the 90s, Palestinian pregnant women and children even used to even be treated by Israeli doctors and hospitals and the families would be grateful and thanking the Jewish doctors . Hamas barely had much mobilization then as it’s hard to demonize Israel/Israelis when most Palestinians know their doctors were the ones helping. It’s a strange paradox when the source of the injury is also the source of the revival but that’s what gave Israel credibility as a Western democracy and ethnic cleansing/ war crime victims, and it’s also just good Jewish morals and ethics in practice. Netanyahu era started all this ugliness and callousness with settlements and super bombs and he thinks he is keeping Israel safe .

Lots of words but in all of it you cannot refute or argue the fact that prior to the Hamas massacre on 10/7, no Palestinians were starving.

Cause and effect. You fail at logic.

The cause of the starvation is Israeli Government action which is deliberately doing so in order to collectively punish Palestinians.

This is not the big logical win you think it is.

Collective punishment - well let's look at that...
72% of Palestinians said they support the 10/7 massacre. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/
That's a huge majority and certainly they knew the consequences going into it.

Firstly, even if this is true, Israel still has to abide by the international rules of warfare. Secondly, the opinions of Gazans are not a crime; only their actions are a crime. Despite what the thought police might say, they can think anything they want without being murdered for doing so. Thirdly, 40% of the population is 14 and under and entirely innocent of any wrongdoing, and they are suffering disproportionately. Fourthly, if Israel didn't want Palestinians to hate them, maybe they shouldn't have stolen the Palestinians' land, massacred and ethnically cleansed them en masse, consistently dehumanized and abused them, incarcerated them in an open-air prison, and tortured, raped, and detained them without trial for decades.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel has slaughtered 32,000 Palestinians since 10/7. Congratulations to Israel, Bibi and the Zionists for turning the world against Jews.

Nobody should be against Jews. People can and should hate the Zionists all they want, but let's never judge anyone based on their religion or ethnicity. Zionists have perverted Judaism for personal gain and power and have weaponized it to dehumanize and massacre Palestinians. Zionism is undoubtedly a hideous and racist creed, but please, let's recognize the difference between Jews and Zionists. Many Jews hate Zionism.

Those ardently opposed to Zionism have been making that point for 2,750+ pages to no avail because the Zionists refuse to understand that they don’t speak for all Jewish people around the world. They hide behind reasonable Jewish people.